Judge Rosalyn Hood on Fair Courtrooms, Army Service, and Justice You Can Trust

Peter Pappas: Welcome back to the Carolina Cabinet. I'm your host, Peter Pappus, in studio with the lovely Laura Musler. Hello, hello. And the lovely Judge Rosalind Hood. Welcome. So it's so good to have you here. I'd like I said it's been a couple of years, I think, since I was running for city council, I think, the last time I saw you out there. Yeah. Yeah, it's been a while. Yeah. Well, hopefully we got better, not just older. Absolutely.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: Welcome back to the Carolina Cabinet. I'm your host, Peter Pavis in studio with the lovely Laura Mussler. Hello, hello. And the lovely judge Rosalind Floyd. Welcome. So it's so good to have you here. And like I said, it's been a couple of years, I think, since I was running for city council, I think, the last time I saw you out there. Four years. Yeah. Yeah, it's been a while. Yeah. Well, hopefully we got better, not just older. Absolutely. So

Peter Pappas: So

Judge Rosalyn Hood: so was that your first term that you won back then? That was that was your first term? Okay. So it's a four year term? Yes. Okay. So well you were telling us about some family drama. Did you so you did not go to the folk festival this weekend? Yeah, I did not. It's okay. It was just really hot. Yeah, I'm with you. I I'm like I don't yeah. what about

Peter Pappas: so was that your first term that you won back then? That was my that was your first term? Okay. That was a four-year term. Yes, I'm okay. So, well, you were telling us about some family drama. Did you so you did not go to the folk festival this weekend? You did not, with all the ninety thousand other Fay of Aliens that went out there. It's okay. It was just really hot. Yeah, I'm with you. I I don't yeah. what about What what have you been up to the last couple of weeks? my children on the world on Okay. Soctor games on Mondays. I'm a film now, so you can hear what you have. I appreciate that. Soctor games on Tuesdays. Soccer videos on Wednesday. Football practice on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays. isn't it soccer on football? I mean, isn't it?

Judge Rosalyn Hood: What have you been up to the last couple of weeks? My children are my world. So I have soccer games on Mondays. I'm missing one now to be here with you guys. I appreciate that. Soccer games on Tuesdays. Soccer games on Wednesdays. Football practice on Tuesday, Wednesdays, and Thursdays. isn't soccer football. I mean, isn't it? What the

Peter Pappas: What that would is it soccer football? S it depends what country you're from. Yeah, in France. Over there. Yeah. And soccer and football games on Saturday.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: Isn't soccer football? Yeah, in France. Over there. Yeah, and soccer and football games on Saturday.

Peter Pappas: That yeah, that I'm blessed with small children. My wife has got most four. Okay, okay. Well yeah, I I'm forty eight still got many, so you know. Well she's she's a great forty, she hasn't had them. Wow. I don't know how you keep it all together and I know the court is not exactly a part time gig. It is not.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: that yeah that I'm blessed with small children. I waited till I was forty to have them so Okay. Okay. I'm forty eight still got any so yeah. She well she's she said she's weak at forty she hasn't had any men. Wow. I don't know how you keep it all together and I know that court is not exactly a part time gig. It is not two full time jobs.

Peter Pappas: You certainly do. So what's the what's the court the docket feel like to you? How heavy is that? It varies. Okay. Solid cases. some courtrooms, like your criminal courtrooms. You can have anywhere from three hundred to a thousand cases on the docket, but that courtroom tends to run quickly, so you can get through all those cases in three to four hours. if I'm in

Judge Rosalyn Hood: You certainly do. So what's the what's the court the docket feel like to you? How heavy is that? It varies depending on what courtroom you're in. Okay. Some cases some courtrooms like your criminal courtrooms, you can have anywhere from three hundred to a thousand cases on the docket, but that courtroom tends to run quickly. So if you can get through all those cases in three or four hours, if I'm in

Peter Pappas: a family court case courtroom or DSS, those are way more involved and you might have one case that takes you all day. So those diets we try to keep, you know, 30, 40 cases is considered heavy. good luck getting through that many, but it really depends on what kind of courtroom you're signed in. And we in Cumberland County we rotate courtrooms. We don't just do one area, we do them all.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: a family court case, courtroom or DSS, those are way more involved and you might have one case that takes you all day. So those dockets we try to keep, you know, thirty, forty cases is considered heavy. good luck getting through that many, but it really depends on what kind of courtroom you're assigned to. And we in Cumberland County we rotate courtrooms. We don't just do one area, we do the one

Peter Pappas: So in the last week, how many are you is it per week you rotate or how often do you rotate through? Daily. Daily. There are some courtrooms that are a full week assignment. Okay. when I was assigned in DSS court, that was one week per month, a full week all the way through. the criminal courtrooms or daily rotations, domestic violence court, daily rotation, child support court, daily rotation.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: So, in the last week, how many are you is it per week you rotate or how often do you rotate through daily. Daily There are some courtrooms that are a full week assignment. Okay. when I was assigned in DSS court, that was one week per month, full week all the way through. the criminal courtrooms are daily rotations, domestic violence court, daily rotation, child support court, daily rotation.

Peter Pappas: But some of the more specialized courts are a full okay. Okay. Definitely a lot of experience you can pick up real quick. Absolutely. And how long had you practiced before you sat on the bench? Sixteen years in the DA's office once if you would terminal a case. I touched everything from a traffic case to the word case. Right. So are you tell us about your origin story. Like where are you? You're not from here.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: But some of the more specialized courts a full week. Okay. Definitely a lot of experience you pick up real quick. Absolutely. And how long had you practiced before you sat on the bench? Sixteen years in the DA's office prosecute criminal cases and I touched everything from a traffic case to a murder case. Right. So are you tell us about your origin story. Like where are you from here?

Peter Pappas: I was born to raise in Lanor. Okay.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: I was born and raised in Lenore, North Carolina. That's the western part of the state. North Carolina girl at least. Yeah, up in near Boone. Okay. Yep. love the country life.

Peter Pappas: Western part the street. You're Carolina girl at least. All right. All right. All right. Okay. Yep. love the country life. I've always been into athletics myself. I graduated from High Brighton High School and went to Western Carolina University on academic and track scholarships. did run track there. And then I joined the military as a parachute bringer.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: was a big track star athlete there. Always been into athletics myself. I graduated from High Brighton High School and went to Western Carolina University on academic track scholarships. did run track there. And then I joined the military, as a parachute rigger,

Peter Pappas: jumping out of planes for years. then trained and commissioned as an officer and served multiple ti tours

Judge Rosalyn Hood: jumping out of planes for years. then changed and commissioned as an officer and served multiple te tours.

Peter Pappas: overseas because I didn't join until after nine eleven. So as soon as I graduated from both training they were calling us up. Right. just retired January two thousand twenty four. twenty two years of service, lieutenant colonel. somewhere in there, managing to have some beautiful kids.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: overseas 'cause I didn't join until after nine eleven. So as soon as I graduated from basic training they were calling us up. Right. just retired, January two thousand twenty four, twenty two years of service, Lieutenant Colonel. somewhere in there, managing to have some beautiful kids.

Peter Pappas: Somewhere you stuck that at him. Finally we swept down enough to do that. Central University. Now I'm living my dreams. I this is what I said when

Judge Rosalyn Hood: Somewhere you stuck that in. Finally, you know, slow down enough to do that. Yeah. went to law school at North Carolina Central University. now I'm living my dream. I this is what I said

Peter Pappas: I was a young girl and I grew up and want to be a judge and I've enjoyed every moment and second of this first term. I've never really ever heard a young lady say when I was a little girl I wanted to be a judge when I grew up. I know I every woman I've dated has been very judgy.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: When I was a young girl and I grew up I want to be a judge and I've enjoyed every moment and second of this first term. I've never really ever heard young lady say when I was a little girl I wanted to be a judge when I grew up. I know I every woman I've dated has been very judgy.

Peter Pappas: But I I th I normally it's, you know, the I don't know, they wanna do other stuff. I've never heard the judge think that's unique. Yeah. Okay. All right. So you wanted to judge people when you're young.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: But I I th I normally it's you know, the I don't know, they wanna do other stuff. I've never heard the judge say that's unique. Yeah. Okay. All right. So you wanted to judge people. Well, I think I was raised by my stepfather. My mom married a man who had served eighteen years in prison for murder. Okay. he was sentenced to fifty five and, you know, how they chop up time and stuff. He actually did eighteen years

Peter Pappas: I think I was raised by my stepfather. My mom married a who had served eighteen years in prison for murder. Okay. He was sentenced to fifty five and you know, with how they chop up time and stuff. He actually did eighteen years. And you know take nothing from him as a father, man. He was wonderful. You know, made that mistake at a young age and got what he got, serving his sentence. But he was a great father to me, a great husband to my mom.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: and we would take nothing from him as a father. I mean, he was wonderful. You know, made that mistake at a young age and got what he got, served his sentence. But he was a great father to me, a great husband to my mom.

Peter Pappas: And he, you know, would share with me what that was like. And one thing that he kept saying every time he told his story was about how the judge treated him fairly. He knew what he was facing, he knew what he had done.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: And he, you know, would it share with me what that was like and one thing that he kept saying every time he told his story was about how the judge treated him fairly. He knew what he was facing, he knew what he had done.

Peter Pappas: It was a scary process, but he kept talking about this judge. And that just made a really big impact with me. Okay. So a judge to help somebody's life. Absolutely. Not just wanted to be judgy. yeah, all right. Everybody accountable in and you know, every

Judge Rosalyn Hood: It was a scary process, but he kept talking about this judge. And that just made a really big impact with me. Okay. So a judge to help somebody's life. Absolutely. Not just want to be judgy. Hold yeah, holding everybody accountable e and you know.

Peter Pappas: role in responsibility. But at the end of the day treating people say everybody respected, no matter what they're saying. That's a noble cause. I can yeah I can get behind that. Yeah. Yeah.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: every role and responsibility, but in the in the at the end of the day, treating people fairly, respected, no matter what their circumstances. That's a noble cause. I can I can get behind that. Yeah. Yeah.

Peter Pappas: I used to want to be a lawyer, but then enough people already hate me, so I don't wanna, you know, add to that. But no, I did say that on the panel today that like in high school I read all the Grisham books thinking that's the kind of lawyer I wanna be. And That's not real. No, it's very much so not reality, but

Judge Rosalyn Hood: I used to want to be a lawyer but then enough people, so I don't want to you know, add to that. But no, I did say that on the panel today. like in high school I read all the Grishan books thinking that's the kind of lawyer I want to be and That's not reality. No, it's very much so not reality, but

Peter Pappas: okay, so you had a pretty noble upbringing, I think. You had you had a good example to listen to and hear and kind of aspire to that. That's excellent. Okay. So you were the big you were the track star.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: Okay, so you had a pretty noble upbringing, I think. You had you had a good example to listen to in Europe and kind of aspire to that. That's excellent. Okay. So you were the you were the track star. Absolutely. I I have the Olympic rings approved. Okay. Okay. Wait, how did you get the I tech to me? Okay, I was gonna I did. I I wanted to compete in the Olympics. I had qualifying times in the Olympics, my junior and senior year of college I

Peter Pappas: Absolutely. I I have the Olympic rings approved. Okay. Okay. Wait, how did you get that? I just had to. Okay, I was gonna say I did. I I wanted to compete in the Olympics. I had qualifying times in the Olympics. My junior and senior year of college, I fractured both of my ankle bones and ended my career with two boots of air test using.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: fractured both of my ankle bones and ended my career with two boots of air cast that had to use and you know I just was like, you know, well on to the next thing, you know. I guess I'll just go and go to law school. I was gonna do that after I completed I'll just make up some I'm just a little overachiever here. I I was gonna go to the Olympics and then I just said, get a lot degree and be a judge. Any other education that you decide one day I'll just get a PhD and I think

Peter Pappas: You know, I just was like, you know, well on for the next thing, you know. I guess I'll just go on and go to law school. I was gonna be back after I can I'll just I don't know, I'll just pick up some other achiever yeah, I'll just I just I was gonna go get a law degree now. Yeah. Any other education that you just decide one day, let's get a PhD, anything? Did you decide to stop being an attorney? Are you good? Yes. Okay. I mean Yeah. I don't wanna sit in class. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: Did you decide to stop being an attorney? Are you good? Yes. Okay. I don't want to do any other school. Yeah. I don't want to sit in class. yeah, I'm over that. Yeah, yeah.

Peter Pappas: In the military, you know, throughout that career we were still required to go to trainings, especially as officers, you know, whole academies and things and I remember, you know, often telling my colleagues in class, like, I I

Judge Rosalyn Hood: Now the military, you know, throughout their career we were still required to go to trainings, especially with officers, you know, whole academies and things and I remember, you know, often telling my colleagues in the class like I

Peter Pappas: don't want to read any more books, I don't want to write any more papers, I don't want to do this anymore. And at a certain point I think you just you get to a certain age, it's like I'm I'm no, I'm over it. I was over it. Yeah. And we enjoy CD over this 'cause I'm writing more because

Judge Rosalyn Hood: want to read any more books. I don't want to write any more papers. I don't want to do this anymore. At a certain point I think you just you get to a certain age, it's like I'm I'm no, I'm over it. I was over it. Yeah. And do enjoy our CLE, you know, because I'm learning more. It has lost change. So it's something I enjoy. So that doesn't feel You're around peers as well. You're not you're not in the courtroom doing your work. You're around other like minded folks. So how much C L E do you guys have to do a year? that's a good question.

Peter Pappas: Well and you're you're you're around peers as well. You're not you're not in the courtroom doing your work, you're around other like minded folks. So how much C L E do you guys have to do a year? I'm still figuring it out as a judge because the judge's requirements are a little different from just a regular attorney. It's like eight, sixteen. I don't know, be it all. Okay, okay, twelve or third fifty. Okay.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: I'm still figuring it out as a judge 'cause judges' requirements are a little different from than just a regular attorney. I mean, it's on every two years. I don't want to give you the wrong number. It's more than maybe twelve or thirteen. Okay.

Peter Pappas: Like it has to be composed of certain It can't just be all Yeah, but you attorneys you take cruises and stuff and do your C L E or, you know, resort stuff, you know. I'm saying I don't I I Well I thought you you lawyers you know you had it you had it made with the C L E's and stuff, you know.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: But it has to be com composed of certain things. It can't just be all the Yeah, but you attorneys you take cruises and stuff and do your C L E or, you know, resort stuff. Where do they do that at? I don't I I thought Sign me up. I thought you you learned that you had it, you had it made with the C L E's and stuff, you know. That's how they keep you a w that's exactly right. That's what I do to her in the wintertime back here. Yes. Okay, well tell me that. favorite snack. You gotta be stuck at the bench all day, so what what do you

Peter Pappas: Just go to some built more estate thing, but we're gonna get our credits.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: pack for yourself?

Peter Pappas: That's how they keep you awake. Exactly right. That's what I do to her in the wintertime back here. Yeah. Okay, well tell me that a favorite snack. You gotta be stuck at the bench all day, so what what do you pack for yourself? is normally in whatever I pulled out of the pantry for my kids' food tonight. If anything. Right. Okay, so really probably not the most healthy of things. No, I actually do get them healthier type food eyes on What does that look like for kids these days? Jerkeys, cheese sticks. Okay. I you know, my kids have highway things

Judge Rosalyn Hood: What is normally in my whatever I pulled out of the pantry from my kids' school snacks? If anything. Right. Okay. So really probably not the most healthy of the things. No, I actually do get them healthier type food eyes on What does that look like for kids these days? Beef jerkings, cheese sticks. Okay. I you know, my kids have hypothyroidism, which means they're

Peter Pappas: easy to gain weight. So maybe mine for that she's very active as I told you.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: easy to gain weight, so I'm very mindful of that. Keep them very active as I've told you. Right now managing three soccer teams and a football team. But they're active here around we try to you know, they get some candies and some little things, but for the longest time they thought fruit was candy 'cause I can get the candy I talked about. I like this. They just ruined it. Yeah. Absolutely. Any family around here? Loc local here. No. No.

Peter Pappas: That's amazing. They try to you know, they get some candies and some little things, but for the longest time they thought cripples candy because I didn't forget the candy I thought about your style. yeah. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Any family around here? Local local here. No? No. Back in Little North.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: Back in the north. Found a few. my mother was the youngest of her siblings and they've all passed away. So all my aunties and aunts have deceased and most of their spouses and a lot of my cousins have moved away from the area. we're just kind of scattered around. But my friends, I make friends family, I adopt me. I do. Okay. They adopt

Peter Pappas: My mother was the youngest of her siblings and they've all passed away. So all my aunties and uncles have deceased and mu most of their spouses and a lot of my cousins have moved away from the area. we're just kind of scattered around. Mm. But my friends, I make friends family. I adopt people. You adopt people? I do. Okay. Okay. They adopt me.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: me.

Peter Pappas: It has to be adopted, but then I don't know if I want to sustain on cheese sticks and beef dirty, you know. I gotta have some bread there, you know. and a regular exercise with me from the drill start. Yeah. I could probably afford to have some of that, but okay, so you've been there for four years. what are some things that you feel like you've accomplished on the bench? And it's always tough with with judicial candidates. I'll just go ahead and I should have just given you the disclaimer already. We're not gonna ask you how you would have

Judge Rosalyn Hood: I'd ask to be adopted but then I don't know if I'd want to sustain on cheese sticks and jerking, you know. I gotta have some bread in there. And a regular exercise routine. Call me the drill started. Yeah, well I could probably afford to have some of that. But okay, so you've been there for four years. what are some things that you feel like you've accomplished on the bench? And it's always tough with with judicial candidates. I'll just go ahead and I should have just given you the disclaimer already. We're not gonna ask you how you would have

Peter Pappas: rules on X, Y, and Z. This is not a Senate confirmation hearing. but it's kind of tough with you judicial guys because, you know, there's not much you really can say about, you know, so t tell me in your own words, like you've been there for four years, from zero to four. What have you feel like you've accomplished? Well, I I can't think of if it was true and you're just any person watched my into my court room

Judge Rosalyn Hood: rule on X, Y, and Z. This is not a Senate confirmation hearing. I appreciate it. but it's kinda tough with you judicial guys 'cause, you know, there's not much you really can say about you know so tell me in your own words, like you've been there for four years, from zero to four. What if you feel like you've accomplished? Well I I campaigned on and it was true in their dear heart that any person that walks through my into my courtroom

Peter Pappas: You they're gonna have a an equal and fair plan feel up front. You're gonna feel respected. You're gonna feel heard. No matter what the outcome is, at the end of the day, you were heard and you were respected. Okay. That is very, very important to me. My slogan was and remains justice that you can trust. But people have lost trust in the justice system simply because they're not being heard. So I I fullheartily believe that that has been accomplished through my service on the bench. Now my colleagues

Judge Rosalyn Hood: they're gonna have a an equal and fair playing feel up. You're gonna feel respected. You're gonna feel heard. No matter what the outcome is at the end of the day, you are heard and you are respected. Okay. That is very, very important to me. My slogan was in the name of justice that you can trust. Those people have lost trust in the justice system simply because they're not being heard. So I I foolheartily believe that that has been accomplished through my service on the bench. Now my colleagues

Peter Pappas: Set a high bar, you know, I can't find any complaints with any of them. I feel like they also are very respectable respectful of others, but me personally, I want to make sure that what I'm there that you know, I'm a person of my words. So how do you reinforce that to respect people in the court? Well, I make sure when I speak to a person, I'm looking in your eye, I'm giving you the respect human to humanity.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: set a high bar, you know, I can't find any complaints with any of them. I feel like they also are very respectable respectful of others, but me personally I wanted to make sure that when I'm there that you know I have a person on my word. So how do you reinforce that to respect people? Well, I make sure when I speak to a person, I'm looking you in your eye, I'm giving you the respect human to human.

Peter Pappas: I try my best at all times to call them by their name, not the you're the defendant or you're this or you know, your misses, whatever is serve ma'am, you know, just basic common courtesy when talking when speaking to people. I try to I don't say I try to, I do I meet people what they are, understanding that, you know, especially people who are coming there unrepresented by an attorney, that, you know, you may not have this eloquent

Judge Rosalyn Hood: I try my best at all times to call them by their name, not the you're the defendant or you're this you know, Mr or Mrs. Whatever it's Sir Ma'am, you know, just basic common courtesy when talk when speaking to people. I try to I ain't gonna say I try to, I do. I meet people where they are, understanding that, you know, especially people who are coming there unrepresented by an attorney, that, you know, you may not have this eloquent

Peter Pappas: big vocabulary. And you might slip up and use a curse word or, you know, some slang terminology. You know, I'm not gonna berate you. I'm not gonna look down at you. I may correct you and say, hey, you know, that's not really appropriate in this courtroom. And they're self-correct. But I still hear them and see past that. I'm not judging you because you you don't speak like some other people or whatever. and just like I said, they want to be heard.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: big vocabulary. And we might slip up and use a curse word or, you know, some slang terminology. You know, I'm not gonna berate you, I'm not gonna look down at you. I may correct you and say, hey, you know, that's not really appropriate in this courtroom. And they'll self-correct, but I still hear them and see past that. I'm not judging you because you you don't speak like some other people or whatever. and just like I said, they want to be heard.

Peter Pappas: it it may take a little longer to get through their case because, you know, I I've learned through the military and and law school how to keep it simple, stupid. Give give you my point, tell them what I'm gonna tell tell and tell what you told But everybody don't have that. So they gonna go all around the all around the world and and go left and get off course and you know, I can redirect you but I'm trying to let you get it out in the best way that you can.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: it it may take a little longer to get through their case because, you know, I I've learned through the military and and law school how to keep it simple, stupid. Give give you my point, tell what I'm about. Tell tell and tell what you told But everybody don't have that. So they gonna go all around the all around the world and and go left and get off course and you know, I can redirect you, but I'm trying to let you get it out the best way that you can.

Peter Pappas: No matter what, they still deserve to be treated fairly and it's not their fault they don't speak well. I mean that's they still got the law to protect them. So you know. all right, so that's how you protect I guess the respect for the people, humanize it a little bit. Do you feel like other and I'm not asking you to point any fingers, but do you think that's a common thing in other courts, other court systems, or do you think maybe we're lacking we could use more of that?

Judge Rosalyn Hood: Well, no matter what, they still deserve to be treated fairly and it's not their fault they don't speak well. I mean that's it's still got the law to protect them. So Absolutely. all right, so that's how you protect I guess the respect for the people humanize people. If you like other and I'm not asking you to point any fingers, but do you think that's a common thing in other courts, other court systems, or do you think maybe we're lacking we could use more of that?

Peter Pappas: I would hope it is. Okay. I mean, you can throw shade on like a South Carolina court or Virginia, whatever you want. I mean, you know. But do you feel do we have other judges that are practicing the same things that you kinda preach? I don't watch court TV because it's not real. Okay. It says it's real. I mean, you know I don't want too much TV at all, so I can't really speak to what is going on with I just move that in my view.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: I would hope it is. Okay. That is my my my hope. I mean you can throw shade on like a South Carolina court or Virginia or whatever you want. But do you feel do we have other judges that are practicing the same things that kind of preach? I don't watch court T V if it's not real. And you know, I really don't watch courtesy. I don't watch much T V at all, so I can't really speak to what is going on in other courtrooms. I just knew that in my courtroom. I wanted individuals to f individuals to feel when they come before me. I told you it's difficult to talk to tradition guys because you're gonna be lazy. Sorry. I I'm good at them on the gas. Yeah, you want you're on the crew. You're in the group you're on the cabinet at night. So no, that's that's that's genuine. I really I don't watch TV. You know, I try to stay in a bubble and away from all this mess in the world because, you know, some stuff make you afraid to leave your house. Yeah. And I'm just too busy for

Peter Pappas: I told you it's difficult to talk to these judicial guys because you know the ladies, sorry. you're on the crew, you're in the crew to you're on the cabinet at night, so No, that's that's that's genuine. I really I don't watch TV. Yeah, you know, I try to stay in a bubble and away from all this mess in the world because you know, some stuff make you afraid to leave your house. Yeah. And I'm just too busy for it.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: it. And you know, I like to spend time

Peter Pappas: And you know, I like to spend time outdoors

Judge Rosalyn Hood: doors in my you know, my all time when I'm not attending my kids' events. So nine times out of ten I'm the coach. You know, I coach track, I coach baseball, I coach soccer. The ninety seconds a week you have to spend for yourself, what do you do to relax? Sleep. That's it. I can sleep on the man. Okay, all right. Yeah. I have that same problem. Is that a problem? I don't know. Not really. I don't know. Yeah. I was I fell asleep while people

Peter Pappas: in my you know, my all time when I'm not attending my kids' events. So nine times out of ten I'm the coach. You that like a coach baseball. What not the ninety seconds a week you have to spend for yourself? What do you do to relax? That's it. I can sleep on my hands. Okay. All right. Yeah. I have that same problem. Is that a problem? I don't know. Not really. I don't know. Yeah. I w I fell asleep off before

Judge Rosalyn Hood: were we were on a boat.

Peter Pappas: We're on a boat. You know, I'm bouncing up and I'm sleeping. I'm tired. When you went to your daughter's wedding? Yeah, maybe Yeah. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. I I I'm tired, I'm going to sleep. I'm always tired. And I can always take a nap too. I I think Dee was surprised how quickly I can just fall asleep. Mm-hmm. So unopposed. I don't know. I mean everybody should be challenged a little bit.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: And and I I'm bouncing up and I'm sleeping. I'm tired. When you at your daughter's wedding? Yeah, maybe. Maybe. Yeah. I mean I I if I'm tired, I'm going to sleep. I'm always tired. I I can always make an app tube. I I think Dee was surprised how quickly I can just fall asleep. Mm-hmm. So unopposed. I am. I don't know. I mean everybody should be challenged a little bit.

Peter Pappas: Not if you're doing a good job, why? Okay. Well I I'm just saying, you know, we there's two different schools of thoughts here, you know. Is it good? It's it's the what I said, if if the person is doing a good job, don't oppose somebody just to oppose them. Why? Fair enough. I got that. Yeah, I generally take it as a compliment. I'm like, one solved it because you have vanquished all your enemies. You have won.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: Not if you're doing a good job, why? Why if you're doing a good job do you have to be opposed? Why two different schools of thoughts here, you know? Is it good? It's it's the what I said, if if the person is doing a good job, don't oppose somebody just to oppose them. Why? Fair enough. I got that. Yeah, I generally take it as a compliment from my comments. If no one saw the need to do to have to do that. You have vanquished all your enemies. You have won. Well you have some judges that are retiring, I think. Absolutely. Judge Hastings retiring. Right. Judge Olivera has gotten the seat for Superior Court, so those two seats were open.

Peter Pappas: They will not they will not challenge me. And and there was a a real opportunity this time as our term was coming up that we had multiple seats that were opening up. So they had other options. Well you have some judges that are retiring, I think. Right. Judge Albera has gotten the seat for separate work, so those two seats were open. Who was it? The judge Ammons, I thought was he's almost at retirement. Yes, he is. Okay, that's seat that I'm judge up with there on what the stack is. So we're gonna keep some I mean, no pun intended bench strength, at Cumberland County Courthouse. what are some things that you all are doing and what role do you have in improving how the courts work? like with the clerks and stuff like that? I mean, that's all under y'all's supervision or that is there's a

Judge Rosalyn Hood: was it Judge Staman took somebody's seat. He's almost at retirement. Yes, he is. And that's the seat that Judge Olivera will be stepping into. So we're gonna keep some I mean, no pun intended bench strength, at Cumberland County Courthouse. what are some things that you all are doing and what role do you have in improving how the courts work? like with the clerks and stuff like that. I mean that's all under y'all's supervision or that is there's a

Peter Pappas: judicial courthouse team dech. for the district court judge that's Chief Judge Tony King and then our chief PD Mr. Adam Phillips because the peer report which at this time is Judge Hammonds and Miss Lisa Scales. They have regular meetings, they're constantly, you know, evaluating the processes.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: judicial courthouse team, the Chiefs. for the district court judge, that's Chief Judge Tony King and then our Chief P D, Mr. Adam Phillips, the Superior Court, which at this time is Judge Hammonds, and Miss Lisa Scales. They have regular meetings, they're constantly, you know, evaluating the processes.

Peter Pappas: We're allowed input. Judge King is very good

Judge Rosalyn Hood: we're allowed input, Judge King is very

Peter Pappas: about saying, hey, this is something that is is coming up for discussion. What do you think about it? You know, give me your feedback so that I can represent us in these meetings. So that's really on the chiefs. That's why they get a few extra bucks. But but they're court time and the I like Wh where do they keep the courthouse so cold? Well, my cloud.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: good about saying hey this is something that is is coming up for discussion. What do you think about it? You know, give me your feedback so that I can represent us in these meetings. So that's really on the chiefs. That's why they get a Ph report. So the court on time and first why do they keep the courthouse so cold? Well my courtroom I I asked my clerks and my bailiffs and people around me how are you

Peter Pappas: I ask my clerks and my baylists and people around me how are you comfortable

Judge Rosalyn Hood: comfortable with the temperature that is in here. If it's too cold, let's bring it down a little bit. If it's warm, you know, I I like to be I can be slightly uncomfortable, you can be slightly comfortable, but I'm not gonna let you burn up and I'm not gonna freeze because I like kind of warm. But every time I go to courthouse I'm always sitting there just freezing. I'm like, I gotta bring my parka. Yeah, some some people who prefer it it's ice cold. Funny story. It's just

Peter Pappas: with the temperature that is in here? If it's too cold, let's bring it down a little bit if it's warm. You know, I I like to be I can be slightly uncomfortable, you can be slightly uncomfortable, but I'm not gonna let you burn up and I'm not gonna freeze because I like it kind of warm. But every time I go to the house, I'm always sitting there just freezing on my warm night. We have some some people who prefer it it's ice cold. It's just just solomics.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: Just Solomon's probably gonna hear this. That's all right. Let's hear. Let's hear it. Just Solomon loved the cold weather. I mean she liked it cold and she would still be complaining she's hot and I'm like, I'm freezing. So I would sneak into the courtroom like thirty minutes early and turn it on eighty five, right? By the time we get in there, it is so hot.

Peter Pappas: Here it is. That's all right. Go ahead, spill the tea. Let's hear. Let's hear. Let's hear. I mean, she liked it cold and she would still be complaining. She's like I'm freezing. So I would sneak into the 30 minutes early and turn it on at 845, right? By the time we get in there, it is so hot. And when she turned, she would have been able to

Judge Rosalyn Hood: And when she turned she would tell the baby to turn it back to her regular zero to flood sixty nine degrees. And by the time it cools off, you know, of course not over, so I never know. you just did. That's all right. That's good. I like that court Courthouse shenanigans. I like that. Yeah, there was no. Nice. It's not a really not an environment that kinda lends itself to being prankster though to each other. So I'm not sure. I bet you do behind the scenes. Yeah, they probably do.

Peter Pappas: Turn back to her regular zero. Sixty nine degrees. And by the time it cools off, you know, it's not over. So you're not you just did. Well, that's all right. That's good. I like that court Courthouse shenanigans. I like that. It's not a really not an environment that kind of lends itself to being prankster though to each other. It's not much you can probably Maybe they they'd probably do. Yeah, they probably cut up. Yes. Yes.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: Yes,

Peter Pappas: Okay. We just can't feel the public because they don't want this to be look, I'm only going down there if I'm summoned because I accidentally got a ticket or something. I'm only I'm not voluntarily going down there. I'm a volunteer. I want to volunteer I want it to be that you can volunteer for jury to get out of the hat of people that want to be on the jury, like stick me in there. A hundred times. I'll do jury duty a hundred times. I love jury duty. What's wrong with it you would not believe it

Judge Rosalyn Hood: yes. We just can't see it as the public because they don't want to look I'm only going down there if I'm summoned because I accidentally got a ticket or something. I'm only I'm not you know what's funny? I want to volunteer I want it to be that you can volunteer for jury duty out of a hat of people that want to be on the jury. Like stick me in there a hundred times. I'll do jury duty a hundred times. I love jury duty.

Peter Pappas: A month ago. I had jury duty and I recorded like every other citizen bears. Of course there were people like, you know you can get out of that and I don't want to get out. And I was like, you know, no, we require this of every citizen. So I'm gonna show up like everybody else. Me really knowing walking in there, there's no way they're gonna put it like that's pretty much an automatic like yeah, no. Attorneys all their their juror and

Judge Rosalyn Hood: A month ago. I had to reduce the and I reported, like every other citizen does. Of course there were people like, you know you can get out of that and I don't want to get to get your name out of it and I was like, you know, no, we require this of every citizen, so I'm gonna show up like everybody else. Me really knowing, walking in there, there's no way they're gonna put a challenge like they say that's pretty much an automatic way. Yeah, they don't even want attorneys on their their juror and

Peter Pappas: I can't children.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: I got chosen

Peter Pappas: And I was there for what, six, seven days all the way through you know, deliberation and and final judgment. They picked me and I was like, Wow. You I always wanted to be a fly on the wall, you wonder, you know, years of prosecuting and trying case you're you're born crazy while you're waiting on them deliver like what are they saying? What are they thinking? You know, you trying to figure that out. And I got to be one of it and also experience it. Okay.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: and I was there for what, six, seven days, all the way to you know, deliberation and and final judgment. They picked me and I was like, Wow. You I always wanna be a fly on the wall, you wonder, you know, years of prosecuting and trying cases, you're you're going crazy while you're waiting on them to look like what are they saying? What are they thinking? you know, you're trying to figure out and I got to be one and it was an awesome experience. Okay.

Peter Pappas: I love jury nobody everybody's I was walking around with my Dura badge on the whole time and everybody's like I I think she was just looking for a break. Maybe. Maybe Jury Duty afforded you the break that you needed that week. Yeah, we've been there to the after five o'clock everyone was a break. I'm surprised they didn't just kick you right out of that. They did not. Okay. They did not. I was surprised. Everybody was surprised. Baylor didn't even know what to do.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: I love jury. No, my everybody's I was walking around with my jewelry badge on the whole time and everybody's like I I think she was just looking for a break. Maybe. Maybe jury duty afforded you the break that you needed that week. Yeah, it's been there to after five o'clock every day was a break. my god. I'm surprised they can just kick you right out of that. They did not. Okay. They did not. I was surprised. Everybody was surprised. My bailiff didn't even know what to do.

Peter Pappas: Mm. I was like, I'm a regular citizen. I don't get any special treatment, you know. I'm I'm gonna follow the I even parked in the jury parking lot. Wow. I like every time I've been called, I called the night before, I'm like, yes. They're like, but we don't need to like call. How many times have you got called? Three times. Really? I've served once and I loved it. And I'm like waiting to be served again in Capacal though. And I we don't need another two years or something. This might be a question for the clerk, but how often are they supposed to call for jury duty?

Judge Rosalyn Hood: Hm. I was like, I'm a regular citizen. I don't get any special treatment, you know. I'm I'm gonna follow the I even parked in the George Parking lot. See, it's funny 'cause every time I've been called, I call the night before and I'm like, yes. They're like, No, we don't need you. How many times have you guys called? Three times. Really? I've served once and I loved it. And then I'm like waiting to be served again and kinda called. They're like, We don't need you another two years or something. I'm like a question for the clerk, but how often are they supposed to call for Juridut?

Peter Pappas: It was alright though. How many sites you didn't have your call and count. Three forty. Yeah. Random. Some people I think some of my nervous I'm like, yeah, it's not twice my first time. I'm sixty years old. So I mean I'm twice in Harnett County and once in Carmen Hard County. I've been four or five times in twenty yeah, twenty eight years. I thought so. I'm dying to get I I want put me in the hat.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: It is random, you know. How many citizens did we have here in Cumberland County? Three forty. Yeah, you know. Random. Some people may have I think some of my fellow jurors might like, Yeah, this is my third time people like this is my first time and I'm sixty years old. So I'm I'm I'm twice in Harnett County and once in Cumberland County. I think four or five times in twenty yeah, twenty I'm dying to get called again. I thought so. I'm dying to get I I want put me in the hat.

Peter Pappas: I

Judge Rosalyn Hood: Call me a

Peter Pappas: don't yeah. I I wouldn't be somebody they'd want on a jury. I mean, I'm not trying to brag like I'm a super dick or anything. I'm just saying like I don't think they'd want me on a jury. No, you the way you get out is like well, you start guilty assaulting. Yeah. Instantly you're out. But no, I'm just joking. Yeah, you don't you don't do that. You you answer honestly or you get in trouble. Yeah. Well yeah. They say that? Really? you mean people acting crazy to get out of Jewish? Yeah.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: I wouldn't be somebody they'd want on the jury. I mean, I'm not trying to brag like a super dick or anything. I'm just saying like I don't think they'd want me on a jury. No, you the way you get out is like, well, he's charged with guilty of something. Instantly you're out. But no, I'm just joking, you don't see that. They don't yell for that. You answer honestly you're you get in trouble. Yeah. They do they say that? Really? you mean people acting crazy to get out of the jury? Not me.

Peter Pappas: Not me. Like I said, if there's so many people I just stick with all people that want to do jury duty, stick us in the hat, draw draw us out randomly. That's cool. Over here and observing the conversation. People really do do this. Wow.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: Like I said, if there's so many people I just stick it's all the people that want to do jury duty, stick us in the hat. Draw draw us out randomly. That's cool. 'Cause it's the the full experience. I'm in the room with the jewelers, over here observing the conversation so they wanna pick me or I'm gonna say like I got the full experience. I'm like, people really do do this. Wow.

Peter Pappas: What's the maybe what's the craziest thing you heard from somebody trying to not be picked for jury duty?

Judge Rosalyn Hood: What's the maybe what's the craziest thing you heard from somebody trying to not be picked for jury duty?

Peter Pappas: Mm, well that was there, but I mean your whole career. I mean it doesn't have to be when you did it. I mean, you surely have a good story about a I I I don't have anything that I remember. And and you know, we just can't see for a long time and

Judge Rosalyn Hood: Well what was there? What was it? I mean your whole career. I mean, either that's me when you did I mean, you surely have a good story about a I I I don't have anything that I remember. I just remember this last one when there was a gentleman who was saying that he's disabled and, you know, he just can't sit for a long time. He's had I B S and diabetic and, you know, he's gonna have to go to the bathroom frequently. I mean he was

Peter Pappas: Yes, diabetic and you know, he's gonna have to go to the bathroom frequently. I mean, he was not saying that those plants returned to being very gory with the information. And so

Judge Rosalyn Hood: not saying in those pleasant terms you've been very boring with the information and so

Peter Pappas: the judge asked him something about you know, what he did for a living and he was like, I something about moving heavy equipment, driving trucks daily. Hmm. How often do you stop in your bathroom?

Judge Rosalyn Hood: The judge asked him something about you know, what he did for a living. And he was like, I something about moving heavy equipment, driving trucks daily. Hmm. How often do you stop and go bathroom?

Peter Pappas: Right. So even though that did not so I went to the jury, got sent back down and ended up in the jury pool with me and got passed up by the the plaintiffs. This was a civil case

Judge Rosalyn Hood: Right. So, you know, that did not fly with the judge and then he got set back down and ended up in the jury pool with me and got passed up by the the plaintiffs. This was a civil case.

Peter Pappas: and he just kept trying to get trying and the events when they went, they finally got rid of him. 'Cause we were all thinking, We can't keep him on here with us 'cause he he doesn't want to be here and he's gonna torment us by here in this in this room.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: And he just kept trying to get trying and the defense when they went, they finally got rid of it. 'Cause we were already keeping could y'all keep him over with 'cause he he doesn't want to be here and he's gonna torment us back here in this in this room.

Peter Pappas: Yeah. He might just go along with whatever just to get out of the room. No, not as as sit and form your own opinion. Don't sit anybody, don't don't don't participate in any conversation. Just take your notes, figure out what you think, and then stand by your beliefs.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: Yeah. He might just go along with whatever, just get out of the room. But you don't want that either. Don't don't don't participate in any conversation. Just take your notes, figure out what you think and then stand by your beliefs.

Peter Pappas: Well, all joking aside, can't I get in trouble as a citizen though if I make up some real long tales trying to get out of jury duty? I mean, is there not I mean it's not really perjury or anything, it's just I mean

Judge Rosalyn Hood: Well, all joking aside, can't I get in trouble as a citizen though if I make up some real long tales trying to get out of jury duty? I mean it's not I mean, it's not really perjury or anything, it's just Well, if if someone wants to look into it when you go that far to get off and someone could look into it to verify because when going in to do sign a contract or statement concerning being truthful and answering questions,

Peter Pappas: into it. We go that far to get off it somewhere look into it to verify because we already sign a contract or statement yeah concerning being truthful and answering the questions. So

Judge Rosalyn Hood: so don't know that I've heard of anyone's actually telling No, no, no, hundreds, yeah, hundreds of people a day. They don't have time to look into you. I don't know, would just think there'd be at some point there'll be a tall enough tail that somebody leave into it like I come here. Why? You know, we're not buying the the whole what diabetic and all the other stuff and you can't sit still. Right. I mean I get that. I don't Not any

Peter Pappas: Actually, no, there's hundreds yeah, hundreds of people at there. They don't have time to look into I don't know, I would just think there'd be at some point there'd be a tall enough tail that somebody looked into like come here, get your phone over you know, now we're not buying the the whole what diabetic and all the other stuff and you can't sit still. I mean I get that. I don't I can't sit still very long.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: long haul driver, low Yeah. Lift it. He's moving heavy equipment. Yeah, yeah.

Peter Pappas: Yeah. He's moving the heavy equipment. Yeah, yeah. Find me up. I don't think so. Okay. Well, like I always say, campaign if you're not run on just nothing. They need volunteers and even if you're running on the post and they need money. So if you'd like Roslin, or j I'm sorry, should I call you Judge Hood? Okay, if you if you like Roslyn, you'd have to say she needs your help.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: Sign me up. I don't think so. Okay. Well, like I always say, campaigns do not run on just nothing. They need volunteers and even if you're running unopposed and they need money. So if you like Rosalind. Okay, if you if you like Rosalind and what you have to say, she needs your help.

Peter Pappas: She needs your money, she needs your volunteering. Whatever you can do, feel free to contact Miss Roslin or Judge Roslinhood. Where? How do we get a hold of you? Well, I am actually not taking any donations for contributions. Okay, keep your money for somebody else, never mind. Actually, I can all my college and other candidates are running on the polls, so you know put the resources into somebody else's projects. Okay. Did you not keep your old campaign anything? I do have it. because there's still

Judge Rosalyn Hood: need your money, she need volunteering, whatever you can do, feel free to contact Miss Rosalind or Judge Rosalind Hood. Where? How do we get a hold of you? Well I am actually not taking any donations or contributions. Okay, keep your money for somebody else. Never mind. Absolutely. That I you know my colleagues and other candidates are running. I'm not opposed, so, you know, put the resources into somebody else's content. Okay. Did you not keep your old campaign anything? I do have it, because there's still

Peter Pappas: you know, events and things that happen and everybody has a a ticket price that goes up and up every time or something. So I use that so that I can support those events and attend and my favorite things are, you know, the beginning of you back back school drives and you know, vinyl papers and school supplies for the kids. You know, I'd support that I do campaign and and things like that. I use my money to support things. It keeps my name out there, but I think I'm doing

Judge Rosalyn Hood: you know, events and things that happen and everybody has a a ticket price that goes up and up every time they do something. So I use that so that I can support those events and attend and my favorite things are, you know, the beginning of you back s back school drives and, you know, buying all the papers and school supplies for the kids. You know, I support that and things like that. I use my money to support things. It keeps my name out there, but I think I'm doing

Peter Pappas: it's a double-enged sword. I'm supporting something in the community too. Well I mean that's where we're from here. Yeah, so we should help you out with that. so if anybody was to watch tonight, what's what's like in thirty seconds or a minute something you'd want them to really remember about you and you running for office? Then I'm here for the community. My whole heart and soul, it ain't about relevant at all. it's about just the picture of choice.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: it's a double edged sword. I'm supporting something in the community too. I mean, see, so then you should be getting so we should help you out with that. so if anybody was to watch tonight, what's what's like in thirty seconds or a minute something you want them to really remember about you and you running for office? That I'm here for the community. My whole heart and soul, it ain't about Roswell at all. just about justice that you can trust.

Peter Pappas: Expand on it or leave it and work for whatever they and with that Judge Rosalindhood running for it's which court is it though? It's like superior district court. Okay, district court. I always get this confused. C six. You have assigned seats. Okay. Well, everybody, thank you for watching. You can find all of our episodes and links at the Carolina Cabinet dot com. And please

Judge Rosalyn Hood: Stand on it, leave in it, and look for it every day. And with that, Judge Roslin's vote running for it's which court is this though? It's like district court. Okay, district court. Seat six. You have assigned please. Okay. Well, everybody, thank you for watching. You can find all of our episodes and links at the Carolina Cabinet dot com. And please

Peter Pappas: Like, share, subscribe, and we will see you next Monday for the live. Have a good eating.

Judge Rosalyn Hood: Like, share, subscribe, and we will see you next Monday for the live. Yeah, buddy. Thank you.