Election Eve: Data Centers, an $18 Million Shelter, and What to Bring to the Polls

Peter Pappas: Well, everybody, welcome back to the Carolina Cabinet. I'm your host, Peter Pappas, in studio with the lovely Laura Musler. Hello, hello. Actually, we are not in studio. We are we are out of studio. I know, it's kind of exciting. It's kind of cool. So we are this is the dry run for tomorrow night's live election watch party that we're gonna be doing from seven. Well, I'll be setting up around seven, probably go live seven thirty until ten tomorrow. Because the polls close at seven thirty. Seven thirty. So we'll be up and running at seven thirty. We will. We will. But that nothing really happens until eight thirty or nine o'clock. Yeah, but we're gonna have some guests come back on. We're so we are set up at the GOP headquarters here at seventeen seven Owen Drive. for those of you that used to cheat on your wives, that is the old Holly hey holiday in Bordeaux. Cheat on their husbands too. Yeah, that's true. Okay. So for those of you that used to dalliance around Fayetteville, this was the place you went. didn't this used to have SIDs and that that kind of stuff? Was that here? Sids. Sids. I don't know. It was all kinds of like it was nineteen eighties. I don't I know there was I know there was a buffet that after the club we used to eat downstairs. Okay. That's all I know. Well, at the club we're all friends. So but anyway, 1707 Owen Drive, the former holiday in Bordeaux. This is currently it's been turned into apartments and that's kind of a cool reason. Is it apartments or condos? it's apartments. yeah. Apartments. They've got to be really small. They are. I think some of the apartments are so imagine one hotel room is one bedroom and then they have what they would consider an efficiency. It's two hotel rooms stuck together. So it actually has a separate bedroom, like one half of it is just bedroom. There is a kitchen. They put in kitchens. Holy smoker. Kitchenettes, but maybe we should take a tour tomorrow. We'll see. So I haven't informed Laura yet, but we are gonna be doing Laura on the loose. You did inform me. Did I? Yes. Okay, well I didn't inform you. I I've been writing stuff I've been so you have questions and things. Not scripting, but just so ideas so we keep things going. But hopefully you'll have a I have a cohort. A cohort, a camera camera woman, yes. And she'll help. So yeah, should be fun. I even bought you special microphones and I even tested you can go all over the room. Wow. Yeah can we go upstairs? I don't think so. Let's not push it, okay? I've been a little stressed the last few days trying to put all this stuff together because this is cool. We should go on location more often. Technically trying to move everything. You just forget those little wires and whatever and it's it's been. I like this. Well, I don't like this setup too where we're next to each other. Yeah. I gotta get used to that. No, you can look at me right through there. If you put that in the center, then we would both be able to look at it and I don't have to So I can talk to you and not really look at you. That's exactly right. Isn't that what marriage is about? Heck yeah, that's what I'm screaming. I'm talking to you, but I'm not looking at you. Yeah. Right. Well, we do have a few things to cover. so of course, big news for me is we're gonna have that election watch party. It's a first kind. for those of you that have watched local elections or been here your whole lives. It used to be a big deal, I heard. It used to be a huge deal at the Crown Arena or the theater, they used to have these watch parties. It was before computerization. I mean, they would just be calling into the Board of Elections and people were changing chalkboards. That sounds like I think we should do that like that would be fun. Like only have one person see the computer and be like, that would be cool. The designated computer watcher. Yeah. I like that. Well We are gonna have results live tomorrow. I am working on getting some former guests to come back on, some statewide races, stuff like that, just for commentary. Right. we are gonna have some, you know, reaction in videos like Democrats behaving badly, that kind of thing. No. yeah. That doesn't help. I well, the the unfortunate part was it wasn't hard for me to find some. So like having like another person run with the same name. God, that's so dirty. That's so na that's up in Alaska, isn't it? Yep, it sure is. That's where my daughter lives. Alaska. That's why that's yeah. Well, let's talk about these damn data centers. So I I hate to bring it up again and ruin everybody's week, but you know, so right now, if you live in the city limits or you live in the unincorporated in the county areas, you're you got a couple of different sets of rules. Now, the city of Fayeville, last Monday when we were on air, they did meet and they approved The Unified Development Ordinance Amendments. Now that the UDO is our basically our standard for how we build in Fayetteville. And the city council voted to approve the UDO amendments that include accounting for data centers because our UDO was written twenty five. This is already making me f yawn. Well, the UDO did cover the issues of data centers as far as noise, power, water. the emissions, setbacks, and contacts. Okay, so what does that exactly mean? So essentially they put it inside of an industrial type zoning. Okay, that makes sense. I agree with that. Now voting yes to approve the UDO amendments were Mayor Colvin, Thompson, Pro Tim Thompson, Council members Hare, Hondros, McNair, and Davis. This is some weird bedfellows, aren't they? I yeah. And then voting against, this is even stranger. Lynn Green, Dr. Jones, Stefan Ferguson and Mr. McMillan voted as a block too. So very strange bedfellows. Yeah, but at least they voted and now we're moving on, which is nice. The rules do not take effect until after a hearing on the on the proposed moratorium. they did get a city outside council and essentially the city rules are treating data centers like warehouses, but again in industrial areas. So That's what they are. They are a warehouse for data. Now who's gonna pay the bills? So, you know, as luckily our city does not control our utility bills. That is PWC and Duke Energy. so that remains to be seen, unfortunately. Well, I think they should put it in the UDO that they have to pay for all the upgrades so that the people don't have to foot the bill. Right. But see, one the UDO doesn't touch any of that. Doesn't it doesn't have anything to do with utilities. So that's something that we did mention a couple of shows ago. The North Carolina Utilities Commission is ruling on Duke's what they call large load tariff expected in mid November. So a couple more weeks is when Duke Energy goes to the Utilities Commission to see how they're gonna charge these people. but It's only a matter of time. We're gonna find out how we're gonna foot the bill. we're gonna foot the bill, all right. we sure are right up the Yeah. So anyway, so so they press on with the six four, the rules are passed, but they sit on a shelf until a hearing that no one has scheduled yet. So what does the developer do in the meantime? Pray. So right now, I mean, can the developer go in there and say you don't have any rules? I can just go ahead and do what I want. Well, no, if they've approved the UDO in the city limits. then the builder I think could proceed to getting a permit and plan review and stuff like that. Now the county they still they did the joint planning board did endorse a draft on October 20th of how the county wants to handle it. The Board of Commissioners will take it up at their regular November twelfth meeting. So that's just that's 10 days from now. And the county's moratorium expires December 15th. So County commissioners, I guess they're trying to get this in before they take their recess for holidays. Yeah. So we're moving moving towards a conclusion here. Really? Yeah, I mean, as good as we're gonna get right now. I guess it's a conclusion doesn't necessarily mean it's a good one. No, not really. So from buildings that nobody's built yet to one the county already broke ground on two and a half years ago. The county broke ground on the essentially the county run homeless support center. I was there. You were? I was. You were? See, did you get your picture in the in did where did you dig dirt? I did not dig dirt, but I was there and I got I was in some pictures. Okay, okay. Well see, luckily I did not go to the groundbreaking of the Crown Event Center that is now in the muddy parking lot across from the courthouse. I'm sometimes I'm glad I missed some photo ops. but Well I was excited about the homeless shelter. I'm I'm excited about having a place. Because the idea to me, having beds and a pla a pla a safe place for these people to hopefully get their I mean, okay. Not everybody makes the right decisions and we're not gonna discuss that. But there are some people that are homeless that I have met by going out 'cause I do socks and canned goods and water and stuff like that for the homeless. I brought blankets out there and things like that. There are people that are really trying to do the right thing, but they don't Have a way to shower and go get a job or anything like that. And there's no leg up. So and they have that great facility with the men. Okay. The men's facility? You know about that, right? Which men's facility? in as much. In as much. That's it. But there's nowhere for women. Okay. Or women with children. Families. I think wasn't Salvation Army supposed to be doing that? Yeah, but then they had that mould thing and that was earlier this year I think. Right. I think they've they've they're they're working on opening that up, but it's still I I sometimes some people just need a little hand up, a little help. Okay and they can get on their way. But I think it should be qualifying that you're actually doing something and not just, as usual, a topic like this is gonna divide our community. I don't think it's necessarily along the lines of the haves and the have nots. I think people that are not informed. Well tell me, how many people are homeless in our community. I think it's three hundred and eighty three people, not to be exact, but three hundred and eighty three. So a little less than four hundred supposedly. Where do we get that number from I have no clue. Okay. All right. I think so the three eighty three sounds like the point in time count that HUD pays for every year. But see I don't see three hundred and eight I mean maybe I'm missing them somewhere and like I said I go actually do go out there. Mm-hmm And I don't see four hundred people. I Okay. And I mean you see more, you see less. I I think I see less. I think some of the things that I have discovered with the homeless is that they go to a place and they get counted as homeless, but they have to report to another place in order to get the benefits for and they they like hand these people off around. So I'm wondering if the same people are being counted more than once. Well, look I I've spoken to some people like Cumberland Communicare and other places. They say that the point in time count is off by a factor of three or four. So that we should we could essentially have twelve to sixteen hundred people homeless in our community. But I don't see that either. My my problem with all of this is how good of a job are we supposed to do for the homeless population and the better that we do as taxpayers by providing that hand up. Are we gonna be rewarded with fewer or more? I think homeless folks that homeless what I said is one size does not fit all. If you're gonna continue to be an NGO, non government organization and be getting grants and things from that from the community, I think that you should be required to pick a and this sounds horrible, a homeless person and follow that person until they're not homeless anymore. We cannot do a one size fits all because you know who you're helping? Zero. Nobody, nothing. Zip zilch zada Nada. I do agree that if you are a non a non profit, I'm gonna use that term very loosely because there is the homeless industrial complex I think that has come up around Cumberland County. You know, have these people that they're very they claim to be do gooders and they go to the county and beg for money, you know, to do a white flag or to hold a white flag shelter, for instance. Okay. But you can't answer a straight question as far as well how much do you want to charge us poor bed per night or what are your expenses? And if you do obtain government funding of any kind from especially from the county, we should be able to require you to open your books. I agree. If you can't have your financials audited, then you don't deserve to have the the privilege of having taxpayer funded anything. It's funny because I had a friend, very good friend, who was a county commissioner. Okay. No more. And he would tell me they come here every year and they ask for money and we give them money every year. And we asked them, Well, how many people have you actually found a home for? And he says, and their response is always the same. Well, we have a staff of this and you know, we've seen this many and he says, No, no, no. How many people have you gotten off the street? Well, you know, and so he said, they never gave a straight answer, not once. And he says as much money as they get, well, I can go buy somebody a house. Yep. Yep. Well, I I'm was gonna be, you know, interrog in interrogating. I was gonna be talking to an assistant county manager to see if I could at least start to quantify how much money we spend on the social service aspect of the unhoused, because I think it needs to be brought out into light. before we spend, I think the county's proposing to spend seventeen million dollars plus up to nine hundred thousand just call it eighteen million dollars. Okay. for the land for a hundred bed facility. I mean, that's that's a lot of money per bed. I mean I'm let me just say, okay, if I have seventeen million dollars, I could probably work with several different homeless people and get them educated and get them. off the street instead of building a facility that's going to continue to do nothing for the homeless. Yeah, but see, homelessness is not to me, I George Carlin said it best. They're not homeless. They're houseless. They don't have a house. But that doesn't mean they need a house. I looking at each individual unhoused person, I think you need to evaluate the mental situation, the drug addiction. Well that's what I'm saying. If that exists and then you the last thing is okay, here's a place to live. I agree. Drug testing 100%. If you're on drugs, we're not helping you. Period. That's a choice. You made a choice, you go live with your choices. I and that sounds so cold blooded. But if you want help, the first thing you need to do is help yourself and get clean. So October 19th, our county commissioners voted five to one. Glenn Adam Commissioner Glenn Adams was the only commissioner against Did he give a reason? Well, let's see, he to have so basically they wanted to vote to have staff identify up to five alternative sites. keep pursuing special use approvals for Holly Lane, which the problem with Holly Lane, majority of the commissioners agreed that it adjoins the former Pauline Jones Elementary s building, which now houses Ramsey Street High for students in twenty six to twenty seven. Commissioner Faircloth claimed evidence didn't support sitting next to a school and Adams says keep it on Holly Lane. So there's some disagreement with our current board of commissioners. However, Commissioner Faircloth will not be returning after December. Well, if they get sworn in on December first, I think. Something like that. But he is not running for re-election. So we'll see how the change in mix of commissioners affects this. So keeping an eye on that. Speaking of county property with no plan yet, the county just bought three schools for three dollar. Really? What can you do with three dollars? Or wasn't the question, what can I get for no, what can I get for five dollars? that was the no and then you can't even can you park downtown? Yeah, yeah. You can park for three hours. Yeah. Park downtown. Yeah, you sure can. So Okay. Guys, the county is not robber baroning the schools for a dollar a site. Those sites belong to Cumberland County to begin with, and they let the schools use them. For the life of the school. Now the schools have to transfer that property back now that a school is closed. The dollar is to make a real contract, the consideration part. It is not, here's a dollar and we're gonna get a million dollar property. so what you're saying is the county gave the school the land, let them use it, and now in order to get it back, they have to change they have to exchange something. Yeah, exactly. And they didn't they didn't just give it to them, they built the school. Right. Built, maintained, serviced, all the capital expenditures, and now they're inheriting and oftentimes a dilapidated what is called functionally obsolete, because nobody would build a school that way anymore. Right. whichever schools they're handing back. Wouldn't those be good homeless shelters? no, because you have the problem of lead pie. I don't think they have lead pies, but asbestos and maybe lead paint. there's remediation type stuff that needs to happen. And e and a roof is a roof. If you gotta replace a roof on a gymnasium, it's probably a hundred grand anyway. So the I think the thing with the homeless shelter also was do you want to in the middle of a neighborhood? And then you get the people that say, Not in my backyard. It's gotta be in somebody's backyard. I agree. Just like the line has to be someplace. That's right. now. Let's see, it was Lillian Black, Manchester Elementary, and the old Alger B. Wilkins High School campus. And that was on the bypass, Alger Wilkins. So I think Alger Wilkins is the only one that has the highest commercial value. But then again, if the county sells it, it'll be public and they're gonna sell it and get market value for it. So good for them. Hmm. Whatever. Yeah. So congratulations. Yeah. So that's pretty much what's going on in the county now for tomorrow. And here's what you need to know before you vote. First of all, if you haven't voted, please make a plan to go vote tomorrow and take a friend with you. if you're Republican. If you're not, then don't joke it. Totally joke. That was a joke. Everybody needs to vote. Everybody needs to vote. Yeah. I don't really care your party, but we'd prefer you vote. you what, you don't have to be Republican to vote for our candidate. That's true. So you say go vote. Just vote for our guys. So and girls. Six thirty in the morning, tomorrow morning. Okay. So six thirty a.m. to seven thirty p.m. polls will be open. But now tomorrow is different than what's been going on in this circus of early voting. you will be voting at your assigned precinct. You have to bring your photo ID and if you are in line by 7 30 p.m, a precinct official will come out and mark that you were there. So don't worry if you roll up right at the end and there's a line. Just get in line and you're good. you may not register the same day. Nope. That was an early vote thing. It's over with. So if you're not registered, you ain't voting. Now there have been a couple of precincts moved. He said ain't. Did you hear him say he ain't voting? You ain't voting. so early vote counts through Halloween, October thirty first, statewide. We had two million eight hundred and sixteen thousand eight hundred and twenty people vote early. in North Carolina of that 92,000 voted by mail. Cumberland County, we had 61,712. And of that, 1,760 by mail, about 300 military and about 200 were overseas. Spring Lake had no early voting site because they never used it when they had it. what else do we have? We have the amendments. Did you did you vote? Did you already vote? No, no, yes. You did not? Did you vote? Yes. Okay. So and I no no yes. Right. So in the or well, it's backwards from the order we've been using. So I voted for the voter ID, I'd voted against the income tax and property tax. We had reversed in the other show. Yeah. So voter ID is a n is who the hell doesn't want it? And they're already doing it. But they but the the argument on the left was that it's already a law, whatever. Well Th this puts it in the constitution so that if the it switches to a Democrat led Congress or or whatever, that they can't take it out. It is what it is. Well and this this amendment actually extends to the absentee ID needing photo ID. I'm sorry, the absentee ballots needing photo ID. In the Constitution, because in 2018 we already passed voter ID. And that's the one that the courts went round and round and round, but it is finally in our constitution. It's not going anywhere. the income tax and property tax, well, I don't agree with taking away local, local control of that. So those are my views. You don't have to share them, but that's where I'm at. I had a very nice conversation last night in the Aldi grocery store with gentleman that's very involved with the Democrat Party. And he had a couple of gripes about our current situation with our state auditor being a Republican and, you know, how the election stuff has gone under the auditor's office now. And I said, Well, okay, but then when your party's in power, you'll pull the same crap. So But wait a minute, what crap is it that we're pulling? Well, rearranging government. Anytime there's a change, it's always distilled down to, it's a partisan move. No. I think it was a good idea to consolidate the Board of Elections away from the governor and under a council of state member. I didn't have a problem with it. Well, because they gave it to Dave Bullock and then now he's running the state well, he's not running, but he the state board of election reports to him. I I agree with the auditor position overseeing the Board of Elections because it needs to be audited, but I don't believe I'm gonna keep this personal. Never mind. Okay, yeah, let's keep that. So Well, let's talk about the biggest race on our ballot tomorrow. Roy former Governor Roy Cooper versus Michael Watley, and we'll see what the polls have to say. it's not looking good for us. No, it's not looking good. But you know what? Let's just get more Republicans out to vote. Now here's here's the here's the rub. YouGov fielded a poll from October twenty ninth to twenty sixth to twenty ninth out of twenty one hundred likely voters. Cooper fifty five, Watley forty-four. High Point University, very well respected methodology up there. Cooper fifty-four, Watley forty, Elon University, between September twenty ninth and October eighth, that was really it's about a month old. Cooper fifty two, Watley thirty-nine. So if you look at the beginning of October to now, Watley has gained between one and five points over Governor Cooper according to If you use Elon University as a baseline on October 8th. So you also have other people in the state senators race, or I'm sorry, the federal senators, congressional senators race, Roy Cooper, Michael Watley. Don't forget Shannon Bray and Michael Dublin, who was a guest on our show on August 3rd. on the appellate, you do have Supreme Court, Anita Earl's versus Sarah Stevens. Let's see, Airwood versus Byrne. We had Byrne on. we had Anita Earl on and we had Toby Hampson versus George Bell. We've had both of those gentlemen on. Never heard from Walchick, but we did have Judge Collins on. And these are eight-year terms. So it's very important that you do a little bit of reading on the judicial candidates before you go into the ballot and fill in the blank. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Trump has an approval rating of thirty four and a disapproval rating of fifty seven. Yep. A lot of people are upset with with old Donald Trump. he's still your president, whether you like him or not. I like to remind people of that. I'm d I'm just so happy that they had those No Kings rallies. Yeah. Yeah because there's they've been very successful. One more year, no king. I'm impressed. So Well look, whoever wins, you know, one thing you're gonna notice now is what's at the pump and what's at the grocery store. And the kitchen table issues I think have defined this election. I love that they waived the taxes for the gas. Yeah. And then as soon as the Republicans win, if we do win, then they're gonna reinstate the taxes and everybody's gonna say seamless. It's be our fault. Yeah. Yes. Not a very smart idea. Just my opinion. So I did some research. gas today was three dollars and twenty cents. That's for regular. A month ago it was almost four. A year ago it was two dollars and seventy six cents. So two seventy six a year ago, three twenty right now. So we're how much was it when there was a well somebody else was in office? Well also yeah it was much higher. But also a year ago we had forty one cents a built in tax on that two seventy six. So we're about ninety cents up for a gallon of gas right now, even with the tax deferment. diesel's gone crazy. a month ago was six. That's what really drives everything. Yeah. There's nothing that doesn't run on diesel. You're you're the the the farmers, the trucks, all of it. Well, the farm aid as of As of today actually, Associated Press reported that we're gonna be giving farmers fifteen billion dollars of farm aid, but eight billion dollars is a one time payment tied to diesel costs. So a lot of what we're giving the farmers this year is because of the increase in diesel price. Yeah, I watched a guy in an interview and he told and he said how thousands of dollars they spend thous like my god, I could buy a house for how much they spend on gas in a month. Yeah. So let's look at California, as usual, causing trouble. October 29th, federal judge rejected Department of Justice request to segregate ballots of up to 20,000 suspected non-citizen registrants. Huh. Come on, California, get your shit together. Michigan. Okay. Representative Haley Stevens causing some kerfuffle. She lost the August primary to Abdul El Sayed. And now she's endorsing endorsing Republican Mike Rogers at a Detroit Detroit church, citing their feud over Israel. We can't stand with this hate. Quote. The state Democratic chair, of course, says that she has abandoned everything she claims to care about. I love it when a Democrat awakens. I actually watched her and she says, I do not I'm not abandoning the Democrat Party. I love everything about the Democratic Party. This man is not a Democrat, he is a socialist. He is anti-American. And there's a difference between voting Democrat and voting Al Said, whatever his name is. Whatever. Okay. there's a difference. There is a big difference with a Democrat and a Democratic socialist, and it's not a good one. well let's get to some rapid fire and we're gonna get out of here. So Hope Mills town manager is out on November twentieth. Mr. Chancellor McLaughlin leaves November twentieth. He has been hired now by Andrew North Carolina. congratulations. Commissioners voted in June not to renew his contract. It was supposed to run till March of twenty seven. he presided over the town during the fiscal year twenty five audit, found by the state auditor that there was a one point five five million dollar fund balance loss. What does that mean? basically this the town was supposed to have their savings account. And they had to dip into it more more often than they should have because of other things going on. And they are short going into the fall, about one and a half million dollars. Just after they raise taxes too. Perfect. Well, E.E. Smith design team picked. School board ranked Andre Johnson Architects. LPA Design Studios, first of four interviews, ten applied on October 27th for one, I'm sorry, a hundred. And fifty million dollar rebuild. The contract review, November seventeenth. The challenge, the existing twenty seven acre Seabrook Road campus. State guidelines recommend thirty developable developable. Is that the word develop developable? Yes, it is. Acres plus more than one hundred students. Yeah. so all the people that were passionate for no reason because they didn't know why. There was a reason why we wanted to move it to Stryker Golf Course because there was plenty of space out there. now you're gonna be sticking you remember fat guy in little coat. Yep. That's what it's gonna feel like. Fat guy in a little coat. Yeah. So back when Saturday live was hilarious. So County Data Center ordinance comes November twelfth. we talked about it already. The final vote is expected in December. The moratorium does end December fifteenth. Well, the election board hearing November twenty fourth. The State Board of Elections tabled the complaint against Cumberland County Board of Elections member Irene Grimes till November twenty fourth. Three weeks after the election. One line, no characterization. Yeah, I'm gonna characterize that. It's BS and they should have just heard it and moved on. So Erica Kirk visited, and guess what? We're still here. There was no incident. There was an incident they were protesting last week. Yeah, there was 10 people. So okay. She visited Fable Christian School last week. It went off without an incident. A small protest of about ten people. Nobody missed a day of work, I'm pretty sure. And there were no arrests. Well, polls open tomorrow at six thirty in the morning and we're live tomorrow night at from seven o'clock, right here at the Carolina Cabinet. Slash live. Slash live. Tomorrow night we'll be here so please it is open to anybody'd like to stop in and as long as you're registered republican, yeah. Yeah. I w well I think that's kind of a prerequisite, but we would take a convert. I'll take a convert. Absolutely. We need you to know that we're we are your neighborhood friendly Republicans. Yes, we have already we've alre we've already gone and given our sacrifices for the the month, so we've yeah, we've already yeah. Okay. Look. We are a f we are a fun bunch. We want you to come in. I don't know. There might be food here. Allegedly I heard we're definitely I'm bringing bourbon. So Okay, bourbon. I was I thought you were gonna say bringing baldinos. I'm like well yeah, if you don't have to eat a big I love no, I love me some baldinos. But it's nice to have something a little different. Well if you can't make it tomorrow night Yeah, Turkey Jane Turkey. So if you can't make it tomorrow night, you can watch us at the Carolinacabinet.com forward slash live. And while you're there, sign up for the newsletter so we can keep in touch. every candidate conversation that I have worked on and that Laura's worked on with me is up at the Carolinacabinet.com, including a couple that went from last week with Mr. Brooks Fuller of Common Cause NC, last Monday's live. And I also had an episode, I sat down with commissioners Henry Tyson and Pavin Patel from Crumbling County Board of Commissioners. So did you get active duty votes out there? I did not. That's coming, but we're we need to work on that one. Christmas is coming too. Yeah, that's true. So polls open at six thirty AM. Please go vote. 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