Grassroots Power: Don Brown and Andy Nielsen Energize the GOP Base

Peter Pappas: Well, everyone, welcome, welcome to the Carolina Cabinet. I'm your host, Peter Pappas, in studio with the lovely Laura Mussler. Hello, hello. And joining us special guests, Mr. Andy Nilsen and Mr. John Brown. Good afternoon, gentlemen. Good to be here. Thank you, Peter. Always a pleasure to have you all in the studio. So we got a lot to talk about. You guys are former US Senate candidates. Roy Cooper this week was on national television and said Michael Watley was handed his nomination. but I've got you two here and you should know better that that's not true. you guys ran against it. And you guys competed for the nomination. Today you're in favor doing something I think Washington should learn from, and that's putting the team ahead of themselves. Yeah. So we want to welcome you here. and today I get to find jobs. Don Brown, I've been working with you I've been wanting to ask you about your campaign. So tell me you you campaign for months. You went around the state room in front of the bathroom. Top and bottom and examining. How many counties did she hit of the hundred counties? Probably about nine some. You know every single one of them. There were a couple of totally surprised. Yeah, but we yeah, we we we hit most of them, not all of them. We lost track after a while. But we we know everybody all over the state. So Right, right. And and you build a co coalition which is excellent. And not only did you build a coalition of voters, but you also set up a coalition with Andy who ran against you in the beginning. Well, I I've come to not just like Andy but love him as a brother. This whole I'm giving Andy all the credit in the world, but the joint tour that we're doing was Andy's anxiety. I I called Watt later today after the primary and said, Michael, help you anyway. I can't say great, we're gonna need your votes. He said you know, we we need to pull everybody together. You let me know. And not long after that Andy called and said, Let's do this together. It makes so much sense because we were friendly competitors. All on the same team, working for the same thing. And so our joint appearance, I'll give credit to my friend Andy over here, and the more I've gotten to know him, the more I write themselves. But we we leave. Where's he going? Well he runs, he goes from here to the I go I go a lot of places. He does so anyway. So what did you learn about the North Carolina voters that you're taking with you? Well, I I learned that we had a coalition of patriots who love their country, love God and love their country. And of course, I have, you know, some folks that are very opinionated, but they are opinionated because of passion for freedom. And and I I know that I've learned, you know, I I served in the military, some of my our voters did not, but we all have that same military mentality. We were ready to go to a to war for freedom to stand for this nation. And it's just it was one of the greatest blessings to be around so many patriots. And I would do it all over again. You know, if somebody, if I could have seen this crystal bar and seen how it ended up, even before I started, I would have done it all over again because of the friendships. Second time we've been here with the two of you. And well now we have a friendship rewired. And you can't really put a price on anything. So one of the greatest experiences of my life my life really, even though we didn't finish first off the finish line like we hope to be But you finished first through some other hearts. Thanks. Thank you. So Mr. Nilsson, when tr Trump endorsed Watley, it seemed like that was the point when you stepped aside gracefully, my hand. Was that hard for you to do? Absolutely. I mean you you know, when you you don't do something like this lightly. I started campaigning for the for a for the United States Senate, I don't know. Probably about a year and a half ago. Okay. Mr. Brown, I think you I think you I think you both swerved. Okay, all right. There's no Ricky Bobby here saying if you're not first or last. Exactly right now. you know, okay. So you you you both have been at it for a while, and that's what I admired over both your campaigns, is that you you understood to run for such an office, you you gotta have a lot of runway. You gotta do a lot of grassroots, you gotta talk to people, which I thought was very important. So that was not an easy decision for you. How did you did you just not think that it was a worthwhile effort at that point to try to pursue running against Watley if Trump was endorsing him? No, well it it wasn't that kind of i strategic. I had said the day I announced in Raleigh that I would drop out of the race if Lar Trump ran. Okay. Yeah, that that is ancient history in this. Yeah, okay. I said that I said it for you know, hundred of people, hundreds of people. Okay. And I maintained that line. As the race progressed, it became obvious to a lot of people, certainly including me, that Laura Trump was not gonna run. And I had to kind of factor that in and decided that well that was that was the one no go for me was Laura Trump. Otherwise I would stay in. And but I I really became conscious of of the importance of supporting the president. I ran to support the president. And I look, I'll tell you, you know, and I'm one of many, I think, who didn't always were not always Donald Trump's fan. Absolutely. but I came to support him and I knew that when he issued his endorsement, that that would that was as good as you know, the the original promise that I made. And the reason I bring it up is not because I want you to have to relive one of the worst damn decisions you probably had to make in your life. It was more that I I want the people watching to understand who you are and who you are. So because I mean it when I say Washington could take a lesson from you guys that we're coming together for party, despite maybe, well, we don't like everything Donald Trump has ever said or done. But We like its policies and we like you know, there's there's good things about it. So let's be let's come together as a party and let's put our nominee into into office. Sure. And that that's what I why I bring that up. I really don't want to re have to rehash the bad news. That's one of the things about the primaries. It's good to fight it out and then when we have a winner, it's everybody coalesced behind the winner and move forward in a positive direction. Because if we win as a party, then we win as individuals as opposed to wearing masks to put our children on school and all that good stuff. Well who told the Democrats when they ran World Salad Lady? I mean, you know, they somebody forgot to tell the Democrats, you know. what is it, senators? Yeah. Spare me. so you and Watley had some very big disagreements in the primary. so what convinced you to get behind him now? I I'll share this story tonight. Andy has heard it a bunch of times. The last time I saw my dad alive was looking through a mission home outside of Mercy, North Carolina, because of Cooper's unconstitutional mandates. Michael Watley and and for that reason alone, I'm not only a hundred percent behind Michael Watley, I'm a thousand percent behind him, and that's just getting started. And so, you know, I'm behind Michael Wallet because I love my country, love my state, love my country, love my family. And they're the divide, the philosophical divide between the center of the Democrat Party and Republican Party is off in the charts. They're pushing this Democratic socialist stuff now. And people are buying it. You know, they're eating some chocolate chip cookies. And so it's so crucial. you you know, this isn't like you're it's not your daddy's Democrat Party. It's not like there's a Sam Nunn down in Georgia, Stu Jackson and Washington. People that that you know are not Republicans, but not crazy. They're crazy. And and Roy Cooper falls into that category. He's the most radical and leftist governor this state has ever had. I do not believe he defeated you know, you can call me a conspiracy theorist. I don't care. I don't believe he legitimately took out Pat McCorready when he when he first was elected. So it's a real real easy decision to make. Michael was After Andy left the race. Andy and I were sort of running the same lane philosophically. So when Andy made I know it was a hard decision in the league. Part I stayed part because of Andy, because that those voices, that voice needed to be heard. I feel like that a a primary is a healthy thing. And there were you know, there there were positions out there that need to be debated, and even though we didn't have a national debate, we got our message out, and I felt that wasn't weird. And as long as you're agreeing on more than seventy percent of everything, I mean there's going to be some disputes. Yeah, we don't have to take the are you a good enough Republican litmus test. I mean, these guys are supporting the party, so we need to move these guys ahead. so Mr. Nelson, I know you've worked for campaigns going back decades. Now, have you ever seen a Senate race like this? So lopsided, so you know, with a former governor and it's just all the other things we've seen. Goodness, I have I have to really think back. I mean that the the first Senate campaign I've ever worked on was Jesse Helms in 1984. Okay. Jesse Helms merged Jim Hunt. And that was Clash of the Titans. Yeah. and so that that was a a a way different dynamic to this, yeah. I mean, or it it it started out that way and this is what started it. But I think that's part of why Don and I are doing what we're doing, because this Senate race On you know, if you just look at the media and listen to the mainstream media, etc., you would think that you know, two term governor Lloyd Cooper and dahdah and his, you know, he's got a lead or whatnot. This state is a lot closer than people know. It's a lot closer, certainly than the mainstream media to phrase it. This state has a reputation election after election of after election of closing the gap very quickly towards the end. And it'll do it because North Carolina voters are are good voters. They're They're informed voters, they'll look at the candidates, and the conservative vote in North Carolina is the quiet vote. Yeah. So what will happen as we get closer to election day is the conservative voters who don't really make themselves, you know, very known to a lot of the media types and the polling, et cetera, they're going to start to mobilize. And what Don and I are doing is we're trying to send a signal out to them folks, we're ready for you to go. We know that you'll do it. This is the time to do it. This is a referendum, not just on this these two candidates, Michael Watley, Roy Cooper. We both one hundred percent support Michael Watley. Right. But it's a referendum on Donald Trump. And so the way to show how strongly you believe in that, like we do, is to start working now. That's what this whole tour is about that Don and I are doing. So the last Senate race that you remember that was as contested was Jim Hunt versus Jesse Helms, which is in eighty four, which is what, forty three years, forty two years ago now? I try I tried the math for a minute. I used the phrase about like Peter the great Jesse the great Jesse Helm. Okay, okay, all right. AKA the great. and that's why I was trying to bring it in perspective a little bit because I don't think even with Hunt versus Helms, you had a presidential or a whole flip of the Senate at risk. Right. I don't think it was as can that's where I'm being contested. I mean we could very well see Donald Trump's work erased. Yeah if We put a Democrat in the United States Senate. Well, this is this is a key point that Donna and I have been emphasizing since we started this tour. This is a national race. Yeah. Here in North Carolina, we are carrying the weight of the nation on this Senate race. Because and it comes down to this. Roy Cooper, his best friend, best political friend, and and and who helped him get into law school was his best friend through that and stayed friends with him. Is a is a judge named Sam Irvine the Fourth. Okay. And Sam Irvin the Fourth is the son of Senator Sam Irvin, who was chairman of the House Watergate committee that impeached a chairman of the Senate committee that received the impeachment of Richard Nixon. Okay. And Sam Irvin from Morganton, Senator Sam, would have presided over President Nixon's removal had President Nixon not resigned. So the the this is really a key point and and we're trying to explain this as carefully to people as we can. Roy Cooper has been charged and tasked with leading the removal of our president by national democrats. It's like he has a pedigree of beating the system from inside. He can't stand the state election fair. UNC in Carolina Law School and and was referred to by Senator Sam to get in. His best friend is Senator Sam Irvine, is Judge Sam Irvine the Fourth. He he has been groomed and molded for this moment and for this role to lead the Senate prosecution and removal of Donald Trump. That's the national picture. And what will happen the day after the new Congress sits, if the Democrats take over the House, they'll impeach the president. The week after they do that, they'll refer the impeachment to the Senate. Roy Cooper, I know I I promise you like I know the sun's coming up tomorrow. Roy Cooper will lead the prosecution and removal of the President in the Senate. That's what this is all about. Roy Cooper should not be elected for any number of reasons, and we can go through those but but what the immediate threat, the concrete threat that we're all facing now in North Carolina and the country is that Roy Cooper could be singularly responsible for ending Donald Trump's presidency. That's why this is such a key election. And I think if you're a Republican or an unaffiliated that leans conservative, I think it's important to realize You know, whether you agree that the twenty twenty election was rigged, stolen, whatever, all the evidence that's coming out, all the things you can't look at and say nothing happened. Sure. You have to at least admit that something happened. But I feel like this is a backdoor effort by the Democrats to put to put in a Trojan horse like Lori Cooper, who's got a pedigree of turning up you know, turning people around throughout without the democratic process. So what is what we need to do, and this is for both of y'all, what does Michael, what do we to do between now and November to close this gap to you know, for one thing, and Andy's touched on it a bit already, and I share my thoughts with Michael on it, but Michael Roy Cooper is a target rich environment. You know, when he was running before for governor, yeah, he had some weaknesses. He was a disaster as North County attorney general for twelve years. We were having the we were having major counties having to send their forensic stuff off to private labs. But when he came in as governor, When you just start out what he did with COVID. I mean, it's one unconstitutional mandated after the other. I I mentioned and he separated, you know, North Carolinians from their elderly dying parents. You know, he signed an unconstitutional order to shut down churches, which was struck down by Republican Federal Judge Feder Jim Deber, who I used to practice with years ago, Maupin Taylor and Ellis, which was a So you've a so you a pedigree too. Yeah, but you've But is it's one unconstitutional mandate out of the other. And then when you think about releasing thirty, five hundred criminal thugs in the middle of COVID, and you look at the vetoes. I mean, the vetoes, and and I I'll probably cite some of these tonight. He our General Assembly, when we took control. as Republicans in twenty eleven after having been elected in twenty ten went to work with passing you know legislation that's consistent with our core values. One was called the Born Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act. In other words, a baby born from a boxed abortion, the General Assembly mandated you you give them health care, you give them medical care. And and and we're cooper vetoed that. You you look for example At the parental bill of rights. Democrats believe that the government is best suited to parent kids. We say no, it's kids' parents. And so the Bill of Rights would divorce schools and still does. If you've got kids talking about transgenderism or where they can't figure out what sex they are, or they want to use pronouns, him, shim, them, you gotta notify the parents. It also required notification for teaching LBG stuff. Cooper vetoed that because. A it's okay for him if babies die, even if they're born. B, he doesn't think parents ultimately should be in charge of their children's upbringing. And then you look at the fairness to women's sports act that the General Assembly passed to protect girls and women from being being forced to compete against superior males. All vetoed. That's part of who he is. And I think you hit him on his record over and over and over and over again, and sooner or later you expose who he really is. Most folks don't know yet who he is. He's got a strong name recognition, but you've got a lot of voters who aren't paying as much attention as we are, don't know who he is yet. That's Michael's challenge, that's part of his challenge. And if he stick to that to that formula, it's gonna help him a lot. Okay. Okay. So you say all of these things that he vetoed and he was attorney general for twelve years, and he was the governor for two the full two years. So people still the Democrats still like him. So how do we overcome that obstacle as far as outnumbering him because I know that as a so I'm just gonna say it, I'm not a Michael Watley fan, but I'm going to hold my nose and vote for Michael Watley if I chose somebody different in the primary thing. so it had to be somebody in this room. I you know I don't who else could she could have chosen. So what do you guys need to do to get the grassroots that are more like me that don't aren't Watley fans. I mean I'm going to vote for Watley because it's the right thing to do and I'd rather say Senator Watley than Senator Cooper. What do you guys need to do or what do we need to do in order to get the grassroots to actually show up? Because that was my concern and I said that in the beginning. Don Brown means the establishment will show up for Don Brown. The grassroots may not show up for Watley because of just who he is or his Don and I Don addressed it. He s we s he he said that we ran in the same lane and we did. We ran in the Jesse Adams conservative lane wing of the Republican Party. and and updated is the grassroots MAGA conservative wing of the Republican Party, make America Great Again America first. We ran in that same lane because you have to remember when we started out running, we weren't running against Michael Waller. We were running against Tom Tillis. And Tom Tillis looked maybe a nice guy. I never I have no idea, never never met him personally. But I will say that as a senator, he was a sorry excuse for his another person. I don't mind saying that. He just was. He was he you know was all over the place on the issues. He voted with the Democrats consistently, and so there were a lot of conservatives who have had enough of it. I certainly did, and that's why I filed to run for the Senate. Don did the same thing. So we were running for that for against him at that time to give primary voters a real conservative choice. So what You know, what does Watley need to do? Well, I think that Michael Watley's doing all that he can, quite honestly. I think I think he's doing all that he can to put forward a conservative vision that's in line with the president. This is this is my concern, and I'll just I'll be perfectly candid. If there are those around him who are urging him to move towards the middle, to kind of soften some of those issues, distance himself from Trump, perhaps, or be a little bit soft on America first, or a little bit soft on immigration, illegal immigration, or a little bit soft on other things because they think that elections are one around the middle. I've got news for you. I was with Jesse Elms in nineteen eighty-four and every campaign after that. And Republicans win in North Carolina when we stay true to conviction and not convenience. When we paint in bright colors and not pale pastels. What what what needs to happen? And I would truly, with all you know sincerity, offer this to my friend Michael Watley. Stick to conservative values, stick to the direction laid down by the president, stick to the history of North Carolina. conservative family values. So look, North Carolina means it's been it's a the state has changed a lot more people moving in, et cetera, et cetera. But fundamentally, fundamentally we are a church going, family dedicated, patriotic people in this state. And we always prove that on election day. You've just got to remind us, you've got to get us back to the basics on that point and we'll come out and vote. And John and I are reaching out now. We're signed sending our messages now to that same base. That's what we call fire up the base. And we're saying, hey, Conservatives, conservative people, you need to come out and you need to vote on Wally and vote on the rest of the Tigger. Because it's the only way for us to stand up for God and family and country. Period. Full stop. That's what this is all about. And I hope, and I hope that that this that all the campaigns hear to that message and resist this temptation to think that somehow we win in the middle. We don't win in the middle. The only ones that win it the only ones that occupy the middle of the road is roadkill. And we're not gonna be roadkill, right, right. I think you did you summed it up and I think for those of us like myself with short attention spans sometimes, conviction over convenience. Right then and there. Because when these guys candidates waver and start to kowtow to the middle or and you're suggesting, look, stick to your guns. Just in context No, no, I got a Jesse Holmes used to joke around. He said, I never won a poll, but I never lost an election. How's that? Pretty good. and he's right. We are a right of center state. And if you start to think about it, you ask a very good question. I'll try to just address that in a second, but w right now, Republicans have eclipsed Democrats in voter registration. Unaffiliated eclipsed that. But we have a numerical advantage, the issue we get our people out. Now let me address some of the comments I've heard some of them some of our Supporters say, I've heard one say, Well, well, I don't like Watley, so I'll hold I won't vote or vote libertarian and we'll get somebody else the next time. Listen, here's the problem. You can't take that chance. Anybody with that sort of mentality is failing to understand the tremendous damage that a Democrat Lori Cooper could do in the Senate. And if you're take that. position, you know, we run the risk of losing the U.S. Senate. It's not a it's not a given we're going gain Georgia. As Andy has said, this is a plowed country. Texas is going to be competitive. We lose the Senate is Katie Barbadore. But it used to be, you know, I remember when I was at the in the Pentagon and Bill Clinton came in and and they they tried to do don't tell and they were doing all that stuff earlier. You know who blocked it? I'll tell you who blocked it. It was the Democrat Senate chairman of the Sam Of the of the Senate Armed Service Committee stands on from Georgia. You see, we can't sit it out because there's going to be a moderate Democrat. If you turn the country over to them, the amount of damage that they will do in four to six years will be irreparable. It took Trump long enough to dig out from Biden's jump, but the Congress, there's only one Democrat in the Senate that even talks halfway sensible sometimes that's veteran, and the rest of them are a bunch of left wing idiots. Too much damage will be. Done. The country is at stake. So I urge the folks who supported me. If you spit this one out, or if you vote libertarian, you're voting for the Democrat, and and we can't recover from the damage that they will do, even if we're able to take the seat in twenty in six years from now. So there's too much at stake to run the risk. It's like playing Russian roulette. And we just can't afford to do that. We've got to we've got to stick with the Republican ticket from top to bottom. That means the US Senate, that means our judicial races, which are crucial. I've been talking about those. That means keep holding the line the general soon meaning and expanding in the North Carolina House to where veto proof once again, too much is at stake. We can't turn by. We gotta go on the offensive. I would say Michael Osley would do well to like campaign with you and and reach all those counties because I don't understand like Are we gonna see more of him? Yeah between now and the election. out to us couple of times and hopefully some things will be coming. but I think you're gonna see you know, it'll get stepped up after Labor Day. We're seeing a lot of Cooper ads. Cooper's got a lot more money. These Democrats, the the amount of money they control is often the whole what is it, Act Blue scandal? All that yeah with all these small donors going through the big system. And some I I would forget he would investigate it. Anyway up the base. So you're doing some kind of tour or something? Tell us about the tour. Well tonight you didn't know you're gonna be here. Well tonight's number five, I think. Five of nine appearances. Okay. first one started in Wilmington, Newborn, Jacksonville. We're in Holly Springs, up in Wake County, we're in Fable tonight. Where are you gonna be at? Where are you gonna be tonight at six PM? We're going to be at Samuel's restaurant. In Hope Mills. In Hope Mills. Sam Yo's restaurant in Hope Mills. that's right. We share hosted the restaurant. Shout out to Sam Jose. Great food, great quality. Good way if I have to add. I mean they're they're other people. Yeah, but it's anywhere. That's right. So we'll be there tonight. Winston Salem on Monday. Where do you see Winston Salem? at the Conservative luncheon at the Golden Corral on the Straff of the Road in Winston Salem. Twelve o'clock. Tuesday at six PM in Hickory at the Gold Corral on Hickory. That's being sponsored by sponsored by Cotawpa Valley Tea Party and some other groups that are in county. Then Wednesday at lunchtime at what's the name of Country Club up in Elkin? can't remember. North Day is it is it North? It's the North the Country Club in Elkin. I can't remember name. Cedar? Cedar, yeah, with Cedar. Cedar Bruns. Cedar Brunswick was a Cedar. Seed Brook Country Club Wednesday. And then finally Thursday, we wind it up at Breeze Breeze Seabreeze, Seabreeze, Seafood Restaurant in Henderson Hendersonville, North Carolina, six PM up in the mountains on Thursday night. And that's where that we wind it up there. Although we got a request in from Alkenburg County to run another one in August, another fire up the base event in August down in Charlotte, and we'll do that too. Can I tell you guys that it makes me And I get emotional when I talk about politics and stuff. But anyway, it makes me proud to be a Republican that you guys would go along and even though you didn't see eye to eye, that you would go and do all of this for somebody that you didn't see eye to eye with. It makes me proud that we can come together as Republicans. And even though we don't agree a hundred percent of the time, we can still stand behind the person that they win. Well Andy Andy's been doing a fabulous job out on this and and you know, we swap around like I'll go first tonight, and you'll back clean up, we reversed it this morning. But the point is is the show of solidarity. You know, because we are we have been in this from the very beginning for something that is larger than us. Something that's more important, the the future of the nation, of our state, and defending freedom. I mean freedom is really what's on the line. You know, I've often made the point on the campaign trail that that the power of the government and the freedom of the individual are inversely proportional to one another. And the power of the government comes through regulation over regulation over taxation. My view on taxation is the only good tax is a repeal tax. You know, I know we can't always do that. But they take our freedom and they and they they're seeking to do that. I just saw today the so called Democrat Socialist Party is a platform. And part of that platform is to aboss the United States Senate altogether, to have a unicameral house, to have absolute open borders. It's absolute communism with a goal toward destroying a country, but But people out there of Democrats socialists they think I voted for the Democrats, well the Democrat Party's about gone the hell in a handbasket in terms of skills actually. No, no. And look, I as a maturing grown ex a Gen X server here, right? I'm I'm still maturing, I'm not done. I always grew up with the feeling that look, my government has checks and balances. And if they have the crazy, then eventually the young crazies will balance them out and but I'm seeing more and more, and I've spoken to friends about it. I feel like everybody says every election is the most important, but this really is one of the most important things because look at the stuff we have allowed from the left to encroach upon us. You've got checks and balances built into the constitution, the greatest document ever written of in the Holy Bible itself and inspired by God. But look with what we have now on a Supreme Court Kentucky Jackson Brown. You have AOC in the in you know in the in the who is Mental president is a contender. And AOC is trying to say, no, we need to have a way to what abol not abolish the Supreme Court but add seats. Of course. They want to mess with our fundamental foundational what a document that lasts two hundred and fifty years to survive. They want to screw up. The reason John Adams said it's gotta be it can only work with the religious people and he meant he was talking about our Judeo Christian heritage is you've got have common sense. If you have communists that are being elected. as the mayor to the largest city. You put them in into the into the to the Congress. And even try to get him in as president, you know that is a threat to our Republican, it's a threat to our freedom. So Andy and I are doing this because we love something that is more important than both of us. And we'll continue to battle that. The Senate race, you know, you you don't always win a battle, but you know it's about winning the war. And we're going to continue to fight and stay and stand together through this. Well gentlemen, we Andy Peter Can I just yes. I'm just I'm gonna direct this to the Republican voters out there. Okay. Okay. Hey, there's nobody in the state that's more conservative than Don Brown or myself. And we've got skin in the game. Don and I both ran for the Senate. We didn't make it through to the end, but we've got skin in the game. There's nobody more conservative than us. You need to vote. You need to vote on Michael Watley and the rest of the Republican ticket. That's the answer. There is no other answer. You don't vote for anyone else and you don't stay home. That's not neither of those is an option. You had your option during the primary, that's over with. Now the only choice of action now is to vote in the general election for the entire ticket and make sure you bring Everybody you know to do it because at the end of the day This is about your country. It is about your family. It is about your faith. Anyway, that's this very well is the most important election of our lives, especially when it comes to what we're dealing with with the encroachment of the radical progressive left. So gentlemen, I do appreciate you being here this afternoon. It was a lot of fun as always. Yeah, and Samuels and Hope Bills. You feel like sketting, I'm gonna go out there and have a have a late. All right. Well to everybody watching, thank you for joining the special edition of the cabinet, and we hope we'll see you again on Monday at six PM. Speak to you then.