Glenn Adams: Why Cumberland Needs Open Dialogue, Not Closed Sessions

Peter Pappas: Okay, so welcome back to the Carolina Cabinet. I'm your host, Peter Pappas, in studio with the lovely Laura Musler. Hello, hello. And Mr. Glenn Commissioner Glenn Adams. Well thank you. Welcome, sir. Welcome Thank you for the invite. So you know, you've been you've been to the cabinet before. You're you're unafraid to enter other rooms that may or may not agree with you. I appreciate that. You know, that's one thing about you. you're not a victim of your own echo chamber all the time. I'm sure you succumb sometimes, but You know, you're willing to come out and hear other people's other people's views, and I appreciate that. Well, you know I respect any Democrat that will show up to a Republican show. I mean it it it the we're not that far apart. We you know what? I I've always tell people that we all want the same things out of life. it is. We we may see things a little bit different, but we want our families taken care of, we want to be in a safe environment, and we wanna be able to flourish and we want our kids to be able to flourish. And I tell everybody, I don't have all the answers. people always say, You in a lot of things. I'm in a lot of things 'cause I learn a lot of things 'cause I'm not that smart. You know. It's just, you know. Lifetime student. If ever yeah, I mean you're always learning. If you're not always learning, then something's wrong. If you don't know what you don't know. That's right. That's exactly which always concerns me with sometimes the wide field of people that are running. School board, for instance, you know, I I'm sorry to beat them up, but sixteen people for three, you know, I I really don't think a lot of those folks realize what they don't. And I would ask a lot of them, have you been to the meetings? Right. You know, have you been to school board meetings to see what you perceive as problems? Do you have a child in the system that maybe or maybe not you've seen the quality of education? Because I do think we get a bad rap and I beat up Cumberland County schools a lot too, because we're that damn tier one, tier one, you know. But I know there's also some shiny spots. I know there's spots. But you know, one of the things I've always one of the problems I have is if you were really interested in running You would have been out there before you put your name on the ballot. You know, you'd have been out there doing your homework. You'd have found out what some of the issues were. People would know your name a little bit. Yeah. to be able to do that. Now, you know, other some people run because they just mad. And that's okay too. one of the things I've always said about that school board though is I would like to see a few more people on that board that actually have children in the system. That'd be nice. That's been a big repeats, I think, complaint from a lot of people is that I most of them are grandparents of the same And for well, former educators. I mean, you know, you but some of the grandparents are watching their kids. They are. a lot of them are. You know, and but like you said, they're former educators. I think I even asked I think I told Mr. Hatch, I was like, Well, why do we want a guy that's been there for thirty years? You're just gonna do what the system wants, you know. And yeah he had a good answer for that. But still I I do think fresh blood other perspective. I mean we're very transient here, so surely these guys have been deployed to some other base. Shirley. Don't call me Shirley. That's right. So all right, well commit Commissioner, so can I make a prediction? Yes. For election night. What I'm gonna win? That's Glenn Adams coming. Congratulations, Commissioner. Adams for the win. So tell the voters who don't know you yet, who is Glenn Adams and why are you running for a yet another term for District One? Well I'm gonna just tell you Glenn Adams, who's born and raised right here in Fayetteville. went off to college, saw some other things, and came back home. And, you know, if you come back home, you always want your home to do a little bit better. And Peter, you talk about the tier one. That is a problem. It's always been a problem. and I you know, I always talk about this is that we have to realize in this community that we're not competing competing, at least even our children, against each other. We're not even competing against people in the state. This thing is global now. And so if we don't think globally, we're doing a disservice to everybody in this community as we do that. And that's and I think that's one of the things that we have to start thinking is quit thinking the small minded things of what's happening right here next door. You've got to think about this global issue that's that's happening. And once you do that, I think we can come out of tier one. You know, we talk about these cell phones, what do they call them? A smartphone. Other countries on their phones are learning different languages. They're learning math and all of that. We're looking at they have STEM programs. And what we're doing is looking at TikToks and things over in all all in in LA and all of that stuff. And we've gotta be able to use this. But now I'ma just tell you, and I'm not running for school board, but I do have a problem that we've gone so much in the classroom to computers and everything that we can't you know we're not writing, we're not reading. We need to get back to a little bit of the basis. You have to integrate both of these together to be able to make Why do I have to write? Chat GPT does it for me. Well that's what everybody does now. But you saw it that they said AI is going to take us all out of here in ten years. So That's why I'm polite to I'll be going in ten years. Such and such they you I say please please and thank you. I'm like please would you please thank you. Nice. I do. I don't do chat GPT though. Why? Because it's public and it's open. Do Duck AI or Claude. So your stuff is private. I have Claude and Chat GPT. I use Claude for things that I really want to get right for Chat GPT. I'm just like Chat GPT is like a cheerleader. But it keeps all your information and it sends it out into the world. I don't care. Okay. I'm not hiding it. Yeah, well, you Well, you know. But you without TikTok, what am I gonna do in the bathroom? You know? I mean, come on. And so look at you. And you ask me why I'm running again. Yes. there's some things that I think needs to be concluded that we have started. You know, if we had stayed on track, we'd have a homeless center built now. because it was over two years ago. We had a design. We had the ri did it not look good? And it stopped. And Where'd it go? So in the clouds. Okay. Go and look in the clouds. Th we don't even ha now, because they didn't like that location, we don't even have a location. well Why they hi why are we doing a design with no location is crazy to me, but I voted no. I thought it was a good location. It was gonna be at that point, Fair Tech was over at Pauline Jones. They were gonna do w one part was gonna be a homeless center, another part was gonna be transitional housing. If you wanted to go over and get skills from Fairville Tech, you were gonna do that. We had talked to Mike Nagowski and Kate Fit Valley of putting a medical place there so at least once a month, couple of months, some of those residents could come down there and help out in the community. All of that went by the wayside. again the Crown Event Center I thought was downtown Fairville with a transformed downtown. I thought it was a good location. It would have been built by now, but it's not there anymore. So some of these things I think I want to be able to see or try to get to the finish line. Some of these things need to get to the finish line. Well that's gonna take Many, many years. Do you not believe in term limits or anything like that? You just can keep running till you get your agenda done? Not till I get my agenda done. Because I think there's some other people always I always tell people there's always a ram in the bush. And when we start thinking that we're the only ones who can do this job, we've messed up. It's time to go home then. I don't think I'm the only one that can get this job done. but what we've got now on our board, if you look at it, besides Marshall who's coming off, Kirk, Tyson and Patel less than two years on there. Veronica is in her first term, about to go into her second term. Jeanette's coming off. There has to be some continuity. So you have a little bit of the history. I think once they've gotten their feet up under the under them and understand some of the history of it, I don't necessarily need to be there anymore, Laura. But until that happens, I think that there has to be some link between the past and the future as we move on. That's why I believe in staggered terms. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we do have staggered terms. I know you guys. Not everybody does. The city does. Like we can get a brand new council next year. And that's the problem. I think you do staggered terms are much better because you've always got somebody on there, hopefully, that projects don't end in two years. Right. Projects don't end necessarily in four years. Well they do in favor. They just you know, they just Well anyway. but so you brought up the convention center the Crown Event Center, so here we go. June twenty twenty five, the board voted five to two to halt the downtown crown event center. you were on the losing side of that vote. You were one of the two with maybe Veronica Veronica. Okay. So you were in support of moving or staying. So I think people misperceived this. You wanted to create a Crown Event Center downtown that was not moving the Coliseum. Right. That was not moving the theater and the arena. That was a whole new thing. Brand new okay. Brand new I think a lot of the Facebook backlash y'all got was people thought you were crazy to put a Bubba Dome right there in front of the law enforcement center. They they thought that was gonna be a Coliseum. And a lot of people really thought that, but that's neither here nor there. Now, last week, y'all, September tenth, you did a facility so okay, so you had already spent fourteen to forty million downtown. Right. You tore up a parking lot, you did a lot of site work. Stuff that people cannot see. Had already engaged, had already bought the steel as far as I think the steel had the you know the people who were gonna build it under contract. And then voted against doing it. And so we've lost it too. And people the one thing, and you need to correct me if I'm wrong on this, but the one thing people miss with the cancellation of that building, y'all use general fund money to put the for the for the groundwork in. with the intention of once you got the whole building going, you were gonna pull debt, get our money back for the county. That's right. And then we were gonna finance the thing. But now not even necessarily finance it. You know, we got the food and beverage and and all of that. That's where the funds were going. But it wasn't we were going to be able to replenish our general fund with money that you all used. Mm-hmm. And so without that continuation of the project, there is no loan or there is no there's no give back right away. So we have a hole in our we lost right now we're thirty to forty million dollars in the hole on that. Okay. So last week, now that they decided because I believe part of the reason for canceling the downtown project was, well, we can renovate the other one more economically. And then last week, facility condition assessment reveals previously unknown structural deficiencies in the existing theater and arena. The original eighty to one hundred million dollar budget for renovation has been exceeded. So the same meeting after closed session, the board voted unanimously to close the Crown Theater and Crown Arena to public events pending further due diligence. Yes. How much are we going to spend out there? You know, okay. So you've been here long enough to know that if it actually predates me being on the board. Marshall was on the board. Back then, they said it was a teardown and you need to build a new one. Either build it here or build it somewhere. But why? well back then? Yeah. Well, you know, the first well what started it, because it wouldn't have started. It was started because of a lawsuit on the ADA on the theater. That was that was what the push was to be able to do that. So once the lawsuit, they settled the lawsuit, that was before me, settled the lawsuit, said we know, you know, we're either gonna bring this up to ADA compliance or we're gonna do something different. They decided then that the renovation was gonna be too much. Right. Okay. So think about this. This is not surprising to me. That's this is one of the reasons I voted no on this. If they told you fifteen to sixteen years ago it was a teardown, why would you think now it's not a teardown? Because in that period of time, once the the board made the decision to to build a new one, wherever it was going to be built, they didn't necessarily and I think somebody said there was a vote to put a whole lot of money into this. So they were just kind of Taking care of it to be able to get to building the new facility. So if you do that, and that building was built in nineteen sixty-six. Yeah. Okay. This is what? Back in the good old days when things were built with good things like asbestos. Right. That's exactly right. That was one of the questions. I think I asked that qu I asked her that question. I said, This is nineteen sixty six. This is So during your questioning, one thing I noticed. you kept saying, is I mean, I'm paraphrasing, but is it safe? Is it safe? Is it safe? And they wouldn't have answered. And they just kinda looked at you with a blank stare. They wouldn't answer if the building is safe or not. And so ha so as a member of your Civic Center commission, I was very vocal against with County Manager Greer in the room about closing it because I didn't because they're talking about doing destructive due diligence. Like getting in there and really opening walls and stuff that they have to close the facility. So we're gonna lose whatever little bit of revenue we're gonna have. Well, who told you that? Manager Greer. okay. Yeah. I mean that's that between OVG and and county manager that they decided they wanted to close it in in October to go ahead and proceed. So that's what they're telling your citizen commission. I will tell you this. If you keep trying to find somebody who's gonna tell you something different, you just keep spending more money and digging a bigger hole. This is about the third person that we've had to come to say, you're gonna spend more money than what it's worth. so you know, one of the thing and you saw one of the things that I was fighting for is let's talk about this in in open session. This is not a closed session item. And I would tell you this that after that meeting, cause you heard it. They said, Well, we're gonna talk about this in closed session. Is that not what it is? You heard that. You said it's not a closed session thing. When we got ready to go in the closed session, I had talked to the attorney and we ended up that they did not come in the closed session. Those the the the the Taylor group that did it in public. Yeah. They didn't come in the closed session because I told them it wasn't a closed session item. I said if we do it, I'm just putting on the record that this is not a closed session item. This needs to be done in public for everybody to hear. When we did the Crown Event Center, good, bad, and different, everything was done in open session. We actually had a member of the commission sit on the committee. Yeah. We had a couple and they they rotated off, but they always sat on the on there to be able to bring you all that back. Doing this stuff in closed session is not the right way to do this. And and I I I fight, I do believe that most things need to be in open session. Unless you in a lawsuit or unless you finna buy some property, right. There's very few things I think need to be done in closed session. Well and personnel maybe. and so they didn't come in because they couldn't find a state statute to be able to do that. I said, Bring back in and do that. you know, I've told everybody it you you saw the meeting, right? So some of yes. Some of it. You just the first part. You didn't have to look at all the other stuff. You guys go for four hours or come on. It just takes too long. mine never went that long. You know, you know, I always say this, I'm gonna get off topic a little bit. If you read your stuff beforehand, all I need to know is the report that you gave me, is there anything that's different from the time you gave it to me till now? If not, let's let me ask you your questions. I don't need to know. All of that. If it's been out to the public and we've all read it, then I sh don't read it back to me. I I agree with you. But I've accused some city council people of needing to learn how to read. But it's okay, Commissioner. Go ahead. I do believe you should read your stuff before you get there. But one of the things, and I was asking her, I did ask her about the safety, nobody would ever answer my question on that. But if you listen to Commissioner Tyson when he was asking her, Because they were going back and forth on the floor and all of that. And she said this is basically just an executive summary. There's a six hundred page document, three hundred, six hundred page document. I tell everybody go get the document. I don't even have the document. I mean, I so I I can't make decisions on something that all I got is just so I'm asking these questions. So you mentioned Commissioner Tyson and the floor. I think he brought up that we did some work, say in the nineties or the early two thousands, they supposedly had a forty year warranty. Right. And the people now are saying, Well it needs to come out. It's it's it's garbage. Well, if it has a forty year warranty, then shouldn't the people I mean, you know, so whether right or wrong or in the you know, I mean, if it had a forty year warranty plus two thousand, that's twenty forty. Yeah. So yeah, I but I I do believe that this needs to be done out in the open. people need to hear. Because you know, when when they did the five to two vote, they also did a vote up to from Up to a hundred million dollars to be able to for renovations. You heard her basically say, it's gonna be over that. yeah. I mean, I asked her the question, because she said, You gotta tear down a wall. I Well then that's a teardown. Basically, you're building me a whole new building. And I asked her about the asbestos. I did, and she said, Yes, probably some in there. And so we're gonna spend more money now than we would have spent back when we built the a brand new building. With the event center downtown. With the event center downtown. and Which is and what people don't realize, it was different than just a theater. it had a lot more things to it. It's gonna have a convention center where could have some conventions come in and do all of that right downtown in that area. I thought it was a good footprint to Segra Stadium. Somebody let it loose that it was gonna be a flat floor and not a slot. Yeah, everybody said that. yeah. You know, even though i I think it said even the seating was gonna be gonna it's gonna make it a tiered seating. So we had a solution. Yeah. But it got drowned out by some Facebook crazy. Right. but yeah, so when they did vote to kill it, there was then assigned a budget to renovate. Well we don't need to do that because we can renovate this for a hundred or eighty. I think it was eighty. Eighty to a hundred. It was eighty to a hundred. But here's the thing if you looked at the meeting, and I thought these the the ones who came and spoke to us, the structure engineers We're right. I they said before we put any more money, before we charge you anything else, here's three points you gotta you gotta decide. Whether you're going to continue on with this renovation and you can't modernize it. Limited modernization. So it's gonna be looking like what it looks like now. Or are you gonna tear this down and build a new one all the way to the ground, or you're just gonna build something somewhere else? And so I think they were right on the structure engineers because they said, Right now we're thinking it's gonna be over this hundred million dollars. So before we keep spending this money, tell us what you wanna do. and I think that was the right call for them to be able to make. This is a different consultant. we've had it. Yeah. Because the one and it wasn't. Because we haven't paid enough consultants in Cumberland County. That aside, right now. There was a architect. There was an architect that gave us three or four different versions of this many theater seats, this many theater. Yeah. With different options to, I think, renovate and modernization. Comply with ADA. So we've we're we're not even looking at that anymore. Well are we on something we're on something else now? But they even said that it was gonna be costly to do that over that that 80 to million, 80 to 100 B. Okay. Because what you're talking about now, understand there's the theater and then there's the arena. Yes. and even when we had the one downtown. You know, we had a restaurant in there and everything. There's nothing out there d that that deals with that. And so Well, th I think that's one of my overarching concerns. I I'm I'm old enough to have you know, you grew up here, so did I. I remember when there was no Coliseum and when it was promised to us that we're gonna revitalize this corridor and it's gonna bring, you know, all this stuff. Well, here we are f the how old is the Crown Arena? Ninety six, ninety Okay. So we got a thirty thirty year old out there. And I still got the same rent by the hour motels and you know, I anybody can get their good drugs out there. So I mean, we haven't delivered. I'll sh I'll tell you later. But we haven't delivered on that promise, Commissioner. But and that'd be predate. No, it's not me. But here's what happened. Even back then, because Jimmy Keith was on the board then, Jimmy even went to the point of saying, Let's make this a business overlay. So they've got an overlay district out there and it still hadn't produced anything. But didn't I already hear that lately? We're gonna we're gonna do a cotlassic. But he they did a business overlay a long time ago, back when he before I got on the board. There's already one that sits there. They're talking about this this corridor that they wanna build. With ninety two ninety five changes, I think, how this community is perceived and where you can get to and how you wanna get to it. Three one is not where people go. I bet you there's some folk out in Westfield, well out at Fort Bragg. Besides the Coliseum, they've never been downtown. Right, right. Well that was the argument when the Coliseum was built, was why don't we Where the jail is. Where the jail is, yeah. Which is is a great economic driver for Fayetteville. You know, putting it right down there. You know what happened, don't you? So let me tell you. So the city on the corner of Blunton Street and Gillespie Street has a beautiful piece of property, right? Mm-hmm And they sent out a request for proposal to all any developers. Yeah, this is just recently out to all these developers who says, come down here, tell us what you think you can do. And a couple of the developers said, Look, I can't come down here and build three hundred thousand dollars house and they gotta ride by the jail every day. Right. Yeah. Yeah, we always make good decisions. The jail's pretty though. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's not nice. I I don't think I want to spend any time there, but okay. So Okay. So so I so the inside baseball that I know that I can't I would speak about would be that to consider three one as an economic and a good corridor, it would be predicated on I six eighty five being kind of coming through here to feed. That's right. But to me, I'm concerned of the same empty promise that we received forty years ago that, you know, if we build it they will come and they ain't nobody coming out there. Well arriving. But six eighty five is supposedly a business quarter. That's twenty five. anytime soon and it's still a battle. About six eighty five, I don't know. Tell me. So starting in Greensboro, up above Greensboro, it's this business quarter they want to bring from Greensboro down to Wilmington. And so it's called 6i85. That's what they're going to name it. It's a kind of an interstate. And at one point, I think Robert Van Gheen and I were in up in Lee County when they were talking about it and we came back here and said, wait minute, why is this going to come down into Harnett County and at 421 it was gonna turn and go out to ninety-five. When you can bring it all the way down to two ninety five and you can get to wherever you want to get to. Or even if you take it down, if you don't take the two ninety five, if you keep on down all American, you can still get out to ninety-five. And so that's the two six eighty five quarter, supposed to be this business quarter. So if you come down four twenty one, six eighty five, they've got the Toyota plant out there. They were supposed to do VinFast. It was six or eight super sites or something along the corridor. Along the corridor. But Venfast already went belly up. Yeah, but they're fighting to say, Don't take my property, but I don't know what that is. but we only have we've got a small megasite. We got one of the last megasites. Lee County had a number of the megasites in Randolph. That's why they got the Toyota plant and they were getting VinFast. So there's not a lot of megasites left in North Carolina. We've got a smaller one. It's not a huge one, but we've got a mega site here in Cumberland County, which hopefully would be able to do that. So that's what six eighty-five was. But six eighty five was gonna take you all the way to Wilmington. So I don't see that bringing people to Cumlin County to be out on that quarter to go to the theater. That they're not gonna go to the theater. Right. You go into the beach or you come in and do business, but you ain't you're not bringing I'd like to see something. I'd like to see let's make up a number five ninety five or five ninety five and go to Charlotte. Yeah, that'd be nice. Yeah. The commun yeah, 'cause getting the Charlotte's all backwards or backwards. No, let me tell you what you do now. Hopefully. Hopefully. Hopefully. So we are included in the transportation for a train from here to Raleigh. Yep. So we can get a train from here to Raleigh. You catch the train from Raleigh right down to to Charlotte. And you don't ever have to get off. You don't have to take your car. You don't have to do anything. It'll take you right downtown Charlotte. You get on all of their transport and you can do whatever you want to do. See, the train station's not for hobos anymore. It's for everybody. Hey, I took the train to Washington, C. I loved it. Don't you love it? I love the train. Yeah. Well, the one that the DC stops a little too many. I don't know. I got a cart. I went to sleep. Have you been through to a Charleston on yet? No, I have not been to Charleston. I heard that's a good trip. But did you know I didn't know this on the on the trains that commuter trains like what you had on. have to yield to commercial trains. And so sometimes it stops because they have to let the commercial trains go through because they're using some of the crossroads. Yeah. I did not know that. So I learned that that's why I said I learned a whole lot of stuff. It's a nice laid back trip. yeah. Yeah, I slept. Especially if you left at midnight, of course. Did you do business? I I went up there for a political business business class. I guess so. I had my own I got a little cubby. With the yes. And I and sleeper cart and I went and had breakfast. you had a sleeper cart. No, you were on the sleeper you were in the big time. That's but that's above business. Who's Nothing but my best for Ms. Musler over there like I'm I mean by the time you pay to drive up there, park, and do all that stuff, I'm like what's what's a couple hundred bucks? I'd rather sleep. And I tell you what, when you get off at the central station, isn't it gorgeous? It is beautiful. Yep. So bringing it back to district one. That's okay. I know. Whatever. He won. Go ahead. Look, you have no Republican ch opponent this November. does and I know, but I'm gonna ask anyway, does running unopposed make you less accountable to voters who disagree with you? And what will you actually do with the term nobody had to fight you for? Well, you know, I will tell you that well, I had to fight in the primary. So I had to fight. But you know, I would tell people that after my initial run, the very first time, I've run unopposed every time beforehand. It doesn't make you less accountable. Yes, I've run unopposed. what did you do to scare everybody? Live in a di live in a democratic district that no Republican wants to run. Well, but I didn't even have a primary. I didn't I didn't even have primaries. And but here's the thing. I I tell everybody if you do this job right and you go out and meet people and talk to people and come to things like this and get challenged by people, you you don't you you don't get complacent because you've got to I've got to sit here and Tell you why I do things. Right. and you're gonna challenge me on whether I think that's a good thing or not. You know, people were talking about I don't like that downtown. And I'm like, why? Tell me why, and I can tell you why I like it downtown. But so running on a pose doesn't that that doesn't do me in like, you know. You're still sharper than the side. I still get out. Well, I get out and meet people. you know, and I go this I'll tell you beforehand. This last two years been a little bit different. most of the the the times I've been on the board, we made decisions that based upon the entire county. Didn't care about whether you were in the district, didn't worry about whether you were at large. Is this is did this decision benefit the county? not district one, because I believe what's good for the county should be good for district one. And so I'm not fighting for district one. I'm fighting for the entire county. And I think if I do something for District One, it's gonna be good for the entire county. and most of the stuff we deal with, you know, the library, DSS, the health department, it's for the entire county. It's not for a district or whatever. Well, you got a small district anyway. it's huge. I'll tell you. It's huge. It's it's only that le that from nine PM to twelve PM on the clock of the county. You only got that one little quarter. When I had this when I was running district two, I had the three quarters of the county. I don't very huge county. So get down to Beaver Dam. Yeah. Yeah. That is a tricky. Yes, I have. Okay. That's back roads. I ride a motorcycle. okay. So last one, and then we're gonna get out of here. if somebody's watching and agrees with me on almost everything and they think you're wrong on almost everything, what's the one thing you'd want them to take out of the last half hour? Is that I'm open for them to call me and tell me where they are and we'll have a discussion. We're not gonna get mean. We're not gonna get I'm not gonna get ugly with you. I will listen to what you have to say, and hopefully you will listen to what I have to say, and we'll come to we may not always agree. But we I will always entertain somebody else's opinion. and I will always do that. Cause like I told you at the beginning, I don't have all the answers. I thought you were gonna talk about data centers, but that's another thing. I'm I'm so over it right now. I don't I no. I'm I'm over the data center right now. We'll deal with that next time. I see. So I don't want to talk about data. Are you sure? I think a data center would be fine. I think there's parameters that that all of this up in arms that it. That's exactly right. Use your own electricity, make sure that the water is maintained and whatever. You know, it it's it's interesting. 'cause I just got back from the national conference on county commissioners. And the mayor just went up to Loudoun County. So at our national convention was the gentleman from Loudoun County, right? they've got more data centers than anybody in the world. they get one point three billion dollars a year off the data centers. But what was interesting is what he was telling us, and he told me, there's a bad way to do it and there's a good way to do it. Let me tell you the bad way. This is what we did when we didn't know what we were doing. This is what you ought to be thinking about if you are entertaining this. And that's why I think you gotta have the ordinance in place. That's exactly why we have the ordinance. Do the research or whatever the ones that did it right. Stop protesting something you don't even understand. Yeah. So where do people find you? w I mean so you don't I I always say campaigns don't run on the middle. You you need that you need people and you need money, but you're not running. You won. Well but where do we find you anyway? If I wanted to help you or whatever, or how would I find you? Well, we we've got a office down the co the county. I don't holler go there. I don't know why I got that office. But my law firm, I'm right downtown a law f I'm not on Facebook. I don't do Facebook. I am on Instagram though. but don't miss me. Just look at my phone. No. I thought you did. No, I just got Instagram. I don't do any of Nineteen seventy seven, Glenn Adams, nineteen seventy seven. Y'all had to look at it. Is that the year you were born? Yeah. No, and I was finished high school. That was the year I finished high school. I'm not that old now. come on, Laura. Well, this grade kind of gives me way. So no Facebook, but you got an Instagram campaign website. No, nothing? No. All right. So he doesn't have to. But you know, uh-uh but you know, if you want to see me, just come out in public. I'm everywhere. I'm I you know you That is true. I every time I attend something, he's usually. Yeah, I'm there. And you can come up and tell me anything and talk to me. I don't know. Were you at the Valor Awards? I was not at the Valor Awards because I was out of town. I was out of town on that one because I've been to every Valor Award beforehand. But I'm out there. I'm and not just in my district. I go to whatever there is because I do believe that you gotta meet the people. You know, if all I did was my district, I wouldn't meet you all. Yeah. Right? I think you're one of the best as bad pennies that are everywhere. Well, you know, I try. So I try. Well, if if y'all wanna look you know, you can go look it up yourself if you wanna find Commissioner Adams. He's easy to find, obviously. So the door's always open for you and we'll talk about data centers next time you well, you know, always invite me, I'm willing to come and we'll talk about anything. We'll always have a good time. Thank you so much for being here. for Laura Muscle Me, we're out. Have a Thank you so very much for inviting me. Bye