Easter, Iran, and Election Drama: Unpacking Current Events with the Carolina Cabinet

Peter Pappas: Well, everybody good evening and welcome to the Carolina cabinet. I'm your host Peter Pappas in studio with mrs Laura Musler. Hello. Hello after taking a week long little break. I think that was well needed. Sure. Well deserved. Sure. Okay. Ahead of your Easter. Yeah, we'll talk about mine in a minute. I was gonna say, it's busy world out there. That's exactly right. So we got a lot to unpacked today. ⁓ So President Trump's deadline for Iran hits tomorrow. And now the question is simple. Is Tehran going to blink or are going to get things going to a lot worse? We're to talk about breaking down what comes next some dramatic rescue of the US aircrew that was shot down over Iran and what that mission tells us about how serious this conflict is already is getting. Then we'll lighten things up and we'll talk about why America already celebrated Easter. But you know my Easter the real Easter is still coming this Sunday. It's all ahead Yes, of course. We have opinions so diving right in what were you up to last week Laura? Let's see last week April Fool's Day. I didn't get to pull any April Fool's jokes. That was a bummer You wanted the office were you was on the office April Fool's Day? I was so yeah, you were so I know I was sick. You were sick I was recovering from something else ⁓ because the 31st is Joshua's birthday, so ⁓ But yeah, I rode my motorcycle. pulled my motorcycle out. I ⁓ disturbed the peace because it's funny because I went to some friend's house for Easter Sunday and they were talking about people in their motorcycles. They blast their radio. said, well, my motorcycle is so loud. I have to blast my stereo so that I can hear it over. said, well, don't you just listen to your motorcycle? I want to hear my motorcycle. The reason my motorcycle is loud is so that the people in the cars that are not paying attention to what they're doing can hear me. Well, on the flip side of that, though, I don't think you're running in and out of traffic like these 18, 19 year old GIs on the rice rockets. Well, that's true. You know, that is definitely to me an FAO been known to. To maybe act like a. Well, no, but to zip in and out of the traffic when somebody can't drive I like if I see somebody like swaying or looking at their phone or something like that I get away from them. I want to zip in traffic and get away because they were running off the road Situational awareness you see that you want to get away from I want to kick them in the I Want to pound their door in the private parts? Yeah, what you want? No in their car there I don't want to them. Just I want like ding their car or something I used to actually have one of those balls on my car my my my um, did you Yes, and I would you could swing it out. Okay. I don't know. I still be kind of perturbed to somebody did that to my car. Didn't damage anything. Most likely. I just I'd be mad you hit my car. Well, I'd be perturbed if you ran me off the road because you were so busy looking at your phone and not paying attention to where you drive. don't know how important my phone is sometimes. So yeah, well, it can wait. Okay. All right. Well, so last week, I ⁓ let's see, I went to a new networking event, the BNI business networking international. Okay, I went to an event they had it international that sounds really it's very official. Okay, very exclusive I saw most of my chamber cohorts. I'm safe New people there was nice. It was at Saul's arcade that place on the backside of a IT. ⁓ okay Okay, and I did run into mr. Clarence Briggs did you haven't seen him? Yes, actually my son stayed with him during the summer He would actually he taught my son how to wrestle really really well, okay him and ⁓ Byron are good friends was not the best Meeting I think he was just a little bit upset some people were parking and all his employees parking spaces that morning But I did mention the show maybe we'll have him on yeah, because you know people are talking about data centers left and right right We have one it's not what a modern data center looks like. I it's an older one, but we already have one. So I mean, who better to bring on than a local person that operates a data center. ⁓ did. ⁓ I did some catering this past week. did. ⁓ I have a good friend that she teaches at Midway middle. And even though it's in Samson County, she says, could you? And I said, ⁓ yeah. So I think we fed about 80 students on Wednesday. It's like training them young to eat. Hey, they know, know. But it was a new thing for catering so we made like plain subs like meat cheese and bread and then I brought them like pans of lettuce and tomato and they got to kind of build their own nice like a taco bar for subs see that's what I would like to do because y'all add some stuff and I'm like I don't want that well you're a picky eater we discussed that today once there's you know no soup no this no no this part of the of the rib eye and you know whatever anyway you're just can can I give you kudos right now what's that You have done a fantastic job in the studio. I like the new banner behind you that says on air Okay, you've cleaned all of this up a lot more than it was. I am I am once I give time I Appreciate and I'll take that credit ⁓ What else did I get into some property showings? Whatever? There was something else I wanted to tell you Hmm. See that's that old memory Do you to at Myrtle Beach? No, not a thing about Myrtle mean Myrtle Beach was nice over the weekend. If anybody ever gets to Myrtle Beach, I tell you a couple nice places to stay. ⁓ Yeah. ⁓ last week we had a little bit of kerfuffle in the news about our local board, board of election members, the chair and former chairman, Eldridge and chair Linda DeVore. ⁓ Some do I put this? Some, I would say democratic operative, but I don't know if he's a Democrat. I think he's an independent, actually. I looked him up, he's an independent. Okay. And he has actually attacked both sides. So I wouldn't say that he's a democratic operative. I say he's an equal opportunity operative. He's an equal opportunity muckraker. So they they large could he lodge complaints to the State Board of Elections alleging a couple of it's hard to describe this in a nutshell it would take as a whole episode I think to explain but ⁓ I think when it came to light, I think you Laura were ⁓ You weren't around back then that's right so much thank to me I was around that I just was like, yeah, cuz there was people that in official capacities that had rubber stamped whatever happened and they were okay with it. don't know if it's right or wrong at this point now that it's become a complaint to the state board, but we do have the response from the state GOP ⁓ basically attacking the reporter, I would say, and having to this and everything else. I don't take that stand. Okay. My stand is let's investigate and find out exactly if it is nothing. I don't want to go out there and say it's nothing and find out that it is something. But I don't want to say that it's something and find out that it's nothing it's been decided or whatever But this is why you for those of you that don't pay attention close the loop because they have been These people have been yelling about it since for about a year a year and a half and I just thought it was just crazy talk Whatever and it is very nuanced. It's very Inter-inter baseball political because it's been presented to our current chair our previous chair has been presented to the state board of elections which is all fine that's exactly what you're supposed to do if it's been investigated and they keep saying oh it's nothing up whatever with it then close the loop call back and say hey here's what we've discovered so that these people aren't left wondering and saying that nothing happened if there's nothing to be that's fine i'd i'd i'd love to have a look at it i agree that we should close the loop with the party of rules as far as the g s concerned However, how many times are you going to dig up a dead body and beat it to death? That's I don't know that because I was I had just started coming around the the incident in question surrounds the general Flynn visit here when he spoke right and that was like the first Event for the GOP I attended right as right when I was getting ready to running for City Council and I I thought it was a waste that guy he was not worth listening Clarence Henderson spoke before him. He spent $25,000 to make $6,000. You would have been better off just writing. No, didn't. Well, some, but I mean, look, my point is I went and I was very much more impressed with Clarence Henderson of Frederick Douglass foundation because that man sat at the Woolworth counter. Like that's a story I want to hear. Right. This guy, General Flynn, he went to, he got fired by Trump for doing God knows what. It's like, why are we paying this guy? But anyway, it was a fundraiser. And that's what a lot of this new energy is around is but you say that you say that except that if you raise a question And nobody closes loop. Are you really revisiting it or you just like hey, hello pay attention to me I'm telling you there's something wrong here or if you close the loop then it's closed Well, I want everybody to remember the complaints do not contain any sworn affidavits. There's no sworn testimony It's all if you read it from a two arms length in my opinion It's hearsay because they heard Susie say that to Jerry to well actually Act are you gonna actually me though? I'm going to actually actually me go ahead if you read the minutes, which you told me minutes are not legal documents Guess what you are incorrect. Well, they're not accurate legal documents they are can be used in a court of law as an accurate record of what happened because number one they are reread and Overviewed and if you're not overviewing you minutes and there is a class that I took ha ha ha on how to take minutes and you don't pay, say people's names and you don't say what happened. You keep them very brief. A motion was made. passed. You know, we're handing out secretary positions and electing people for these board positions like candy. It's a popularity contest. Should we not be making these guys go to a training then? it's the, it is, I actually took my FRWC training and I handed it off to the Chair to see if he does anything with it because the first set of minutes that we got for this last Board meeting I was like these are unacceptable minutes this person had an impassioned speech and this day you're not supposed to editorialize right? said something he's seconded it well not even no no you have to track who a motion you don't you don't nope Officially you don't unless it specifically says that you do you don't talk about the discussion you just said a discussion ensued and And what was decided end of story who said what is it so bad to say who said what I mean, mean, not just the audio recorder and then translate that to what in day and age. Yeah, I guess we can. However, comma it's when people editorialize or put people's names in it that if what was stated in the minutes is actually what happened, there is a serious problem. Okay. But if it was just editorialized and that's not what happened, then there's nothing there. somebody has to investigate and find out. Either way, I support everybody. I hope the truth comes out. And that's where I lay. We've got a few people that have joined live watching. And we're to have some comments here in a little bit. We'll get back to those. Kalista there were five sworn affidavits two of them were by people who were on the board when it was said, okay But sworn to whom it doesn't matter if you yeah it does A legal entity investigating the sheriff getting a sworn affidavit is a hell lot different than me saying well I swear to you well no as a notary public Hmm, you can swear something in front of me and it becomes an official document. You don't know who was in there Yeah, if there was this a notary public in the room Another republic is saying is that yes that person said that it doesn't mean it has any veracity or any if you're swearing to the Exit yes, notarize this document. I'm gonna write down the sky is purple. Okay here. I'm not arising out the legal document It is a legal document, okay, and you can be held liable for what doesn't it doesn't make true Well, I didn't say that it was true ⁓ Five people have gone out of their way. I'm just completely and totally lied. I don't know I'm going to reserve my judgment until it's investigated. That's correct. So again, knowing that the investigator called another person and somebody out of state that none of us even know. And don't know who that person is. impersonated a government official. I don't know. That to me is a credibility issue. Maybe. But like I said, was another not not just that person got a phone call. There was another dude that I have no idea who that is. No, I'm familiar with that too. He's moved to take care of grandkids or something. I don't know who it's again. It's kind of like I was telling somebody the other day, Laura and I, and then there's other people that are kind of around us right now. We're kind of been around the GOP. for a number of years at this point. I'm thankful I wasn't around the GOP this thing because if I knew anything I'm a tattletale. We've been around and like we've seen some things so we know a lot of the backstory but then if we don't continue to be involved then these things are going to fall by the wayside they're going to happen again. If you don't know your history you're going to repeat it. So let's hope that whatever happens being investigated we get to the bottom of it. We find the truth. ⁓ If there's penalty to be paid I hope they pay them. Right. ⁓ I mean the big story is not that the toy the big story to me in my personal opinion is that it's kind of like if you're at school and a teacher sees something that's not right she is obligated to report it obligated there's no if ands or buts there was something amiss it was obligated to be reported and it was not That's that's the issue that I have with it if there was a mistake made if that whatever whatever happened My key is why was it not reported and if it was reported then let's see the paperwork where it was reported story over right and again because I was around back then I'm like mmm this in my opinion it had already been but if it's something that can be Asked again for clarification and let it go. Yep Let it be investigated. Like I said, there's a state board of election for a reason. So let them handle the complaint. You want to talk about Tehran, Iran for a little bit? Because tomorrow is a big day for the Trump administration. You remember when Ronald Reagan or Gaddafi drew the line of death and he told Reagan, you know, don't cross this line or else. Or else what? I think Reagan then bombed his house and killed his son. Yeah. I think Trump is like Reagan. We don't listen to Middle East dictators very much. Hold on. We as in who? The United States government. Well. The Republicans in the United States you. All right. There you go. Bingo. ⁓ yeah. Yeah. Don't. That's what you get from the Democrats. Don't. What if I Yeah. Don't. Yeah. Well, some people, did see somebody post, you know, there was a well-known Republican posted. Boy, I'm sure really upset at my president for saying whatever Trump posted about what he's going to do tomorrow. was some expletive in there. Uh, and then she, she went on to say, yeah, I miss it when my president said, but we're, we're, we're kind of fighting this like, yeah, pretty much. we're, we're upset that Donald Trump for using an expletive here and there, but, might talk my children to fight. Okay, they knew how to fight they knew how to wrestle they knew how to football I taught my kids how to do all of that and I always said you never throw the first punch Unfortunately, they have been punching us. Iran has been death to Americans They're making an atomic bomb and all of that stuff. So we said yeah, I don't think so We've had enough. I mean look 45 years that we have a president that has had enough Because what are we gonna do wait until they have it and they actually bomb us. We're gonna go after Israel and that's game over Right. that's all there is to it. They don't, they won't have the capability to launch an ICBM against us, but they'll be able to take out ⁓ Israel. And you know, these folks are living in the seventh century AD. can't have seventh century people in a 2026 civilization. And that's what we have is a civilization. We have things and we are the greatest superpower on the planet. There is no other superpower than us. That's true. Who the hell else is going to do it? And if we don't reset that region, from 50 years of religious persecution and just crazy, who else is going to do it? Well, I don't like the world policing so much. However, when you're like death to America and we're going to bomb you and all of that stuff. But it's not passive and it's not threatening. They've done it. The proxies, Hamas and al-Qaeda and everything. So they've been actively at war with us. Right. And we've just taken it. We're just closing the loop. Like you said earlier. That's exactly right. Closing the loop. Yeah, make the little yeah close it so that you can't reopen it. So Well, and just to go on to that about the superpower. We are so wrong. We proved it. This is the only one I mean, but so Trump puts Iran in a corner. Mm-hmm What happens if they blink what happens if Tehran stands fast? I mean, do you think we're as an American society prepared to carpet bomb the ever-loving shot? I don't okay. Here's the thing we as a country need the Iranians Iranians Iranians Iranians, whatever They need to start standing up for themselves though And then the Europeans and all that need to start getting in there and getting involved and stop they are part of Nido Let's start participating ⁓ Because we're not in this alone number one number two We can't pick the people we're not in the nation building. That's not what Trump wants to do. He doesn't want to install a new Well, he said that he said right whoever who's gonna be the new leader? says so the Iranians want right the Persian people that are the original Iranians need to stand up and start taking over Otherwise, they're gonna pay the cost because if he starts bombing the infrastructure Which would be the electrical grid and things like that that's going to affect the Persians and the people that should be there Well, he's just trying to create some jobs overseas That you know, yeah, he is a big job creator. is a big job creator. So, ⁓ I think most likely Iran is going to do just enough to buy themselves some time. don't think they're, I think their time is up. I think that they've pushed it off long enough that if they're there, there is no more time to push off. Well, I hate deadlines, especially public ones like that because then it removes options. ⁓ I think back to the Cuban Missile Crisis, there's a good movie, 13 Days, whether you like or don't like Kevin Costner, he was in that. ⁓ you know, the public saber rattling removes, think it was, ⁓ was it, Adlai Stevenson was our ambassador to United Nations. And he says, he was the one in the room saying, I still think there's a diplomatic solution. And all the war, the more warhockey type people are like, what? piece of any price gun to our head do you think against our head with the wrong right now i mean i can't even be tolerating what they've been doing the last forty five years they're eating you don't get the sixty percent uranium if you're not going to make a bomb and what are you and and why do you want to make a bomb it's not so you think that because of the evolution of their nuclear program that now there's a gun to our head i i do believe some so we need to demolish them and not get them where that they can jump back and try to diplomatically salute them. I think that I so. don't think that I think so. I regime exhausted our diplomatic efforts. The regime, think I don't think the people have no the people. That's why the people need to step up. But I mean, I'm just some woman in favor of North Carolina. What do I know? Well, I mean, I'm not going to say anything about that. You know, a lot. Thanks. I know a little about a lot. All right. So what do you think? They're going to, you think they're going to give a little bit, give us some oil? No, no. Are we doing what Linda Johnson said? Bombing them back to the stone age? That would be great. Yep. Well, unfortunately some Persians may pass because of it. And that makes me sad because they're a peaceful people. So, know, well, we rescued a pilot last week. was that awesome. We, we, Right when I said is we are the baddest nation ever. Not only did we rescue our pilot, but the copilot eluded for over 30 hours, a whole army with 60,000, $60,000 reward for this guy's head. Guess what? Well, I saw some of the technology that was available to these pilots. Now that's a code hopping radio, or I'm sorry, a frequency hopping radio that would emit Certain signals, but it comes up as background noise to the Iranian or any of our enemies like right as they just hear static But it says I'm alive. I'm injured on this on that. He was injured. Yeah, and he had to ⁓ elude Do you know how bad it was? Not that he was under we don't know yet. Okay the fact that he just trucked his way out of where he was right and eluded them for 30 hours that shows how do you think though because We are trying to claim air superiority over there and this is a more military question, but To lose one of our what was the f-15s? These airplanes are not stealth airplanes. These are the low-flying ⁓ Yeah, that's a jet well most of the planes that they have hit or whatever talking about the a-10 that they okay, that's the Yeah, the whole plane that's really a gun with a plane around it. I'm but yeah, I don't yet The planes that they're getting they're not stealth what I'm getting at is are we sure that I? Hate to call it propaganda, but we get propaganda from our government we do are we? Knowing that these pilots were shot down do we really think we have air superiority or is that a one-time thing? They just got lucky they got lucky and how many planes have been over there bombing that? Okay, I thought of them. They got I mean even a blind squirrel gets a nut one once in a while. You know, is it? Unworking clock is right to twice a day broken clock. Thank you Tony Soprano. Yes, that's it They're gonna get lucky they're gonna get every once in a while But they didn't even have enough firepower to like blow it up out of the sky are people ejected in a really get out, right? So maybe that's another way to look at it. guess the glass half full with my emotionally intelligent co-host Yes, okay. Well It is one thing though foreign policy is becoming a kitchen table issue again, because now I went to the gas pump last weekend and my car sips premium and that was like $5.05 a gallon. it's just about at the same point that it was during the Biden where nobody was complaining about it. And if you did complain about it, you were like, ⁓ that's just, can complain. I have to buy it. doesn't, mean, you know, I'm not going to start walking. Okay. So I was watching. the streets of what is it? Okay. Well, was a guy on Tik Tok walking around. So how do you feel about them? I'm trying to free the streets of hormones. What about the gaze of her? And somebody actually said they're an underserved community. We also need to take care of the trends of hormones. That's I don't mean to laugh. I don't mean to laugh at the uneducated people in America But yes, the the gays and the trans of Hormuz are an underserved community very much underserved. Yes Yeah, well, it's not really popular to be trans over in Iran. I understand. Yeah Or gay so yeah, neither one right so we've got oil and gas pressures I mean, I just like I said five dollars at the pump. It'll get better. It will get better and I think people don't. It's so Americans want such immediate gratification. That's right. Instant gratification. And you know, we want this to be over. And honestly, who does this war really affect day to day, except the men and women that are in service and uniform, and their families and spouses? It does at the gas pump for us for the time being, but it's a short period of time and it's worth it. So would you rather would you rather Okay, let's play the game. Would you rather pay five dollars for gas for a month or Have total destruction in United States of America when we have an atomic bomb. me my blue hair wig and say well I'd rather just not have expensive gas everywhere and not bomb anybody. You can't have both. There you go. It's one or the either way. have atomic bomb or five dollar gas. Pick one. Well, we're going to have to have $5 gas for a little bit. I think as soon as well, tomorrow is a big deadline. We'll see what happens there. ⁓ You know, don't forget we door dash Maduro from Venezuela and we have not gotten enough companies in there to start working. I think once we start getting ⁓ oil from the Americas, right. think we're going to be less dependent on. that's what Trump said. You know what? If you don't like the good, then get it from America. got plenty. That's right. So. I just think sometimes we're being strong overseas, but sometimes the American, the typical American has not got the stomach. We as Americans have see hard times make strong people. Easy times make weak people. And we have a society of weak people wholeheartedly. Could it just be that it's too easy to not be hungry and not be homeless in this country? Yes, because we're taking care of Maslow's lower needs of you know Food shelter and you know, I had a friend who's get with said she was gonna go live on tick-tock I'm not tick-tock Facebook. So I I'm not a Facebook kind of person, but I spent the day watching Facebook all day now ma'am So yeah, I understand but I don't just sit there like look at Facebook. Okay, so I spent the entire day like, okay Where where is this live? I'm waiting to see whatever So I saw all kinds of videos And I saw a guy that said, let's take anybody that says that America is a bad country, find out what philosophies they have and what they would like to see changed in here in America. And they get shipped to whatever country has most resembles their philosophies. Let them survive for one year there and they can come back and, and implement that here or see how bad it is. I love that. That reminds me, my dad used to tell people that back in the 80s, 90s, don't know, probably yesterday, I don't know. you know, people, other fellow Greeks, know, they look, we're a boisterous bunch, obviously, so we'll get into arguments over who's bad. You know, it's kind of like arguing who's got the better football team or whatever, but, Greece is better, this and that, you know. And my dad says, okay, I'll buy you a one way ticket. Go back. If you don't like, go back. You know, you don't have to like everything that this country does, but if you're here, sit down, shut up. That's right. And enjoy the freedom of not having your head threatened to be cut off today, please. Assimilate or go back. Yep. So tomorrow is going to tell us whether this administration is going to have real leverage or it's just high stakes theater. And like I said, the whole arbitrary deadline scares the hell out of me because it puts men into having no other option. And because every man's got a little pride. He actually, wait a minute, hold on, he already extended it 10 days. Yes. Okay. So this was a 10 day old, 10 days ago he said, okay I'll extend it for 10 days because there may be some back room and then they were like no we're not negotiating. Alrighty, you better strap in then because it sounds like Granddaddy B-52 is coming to see you. right. Well let's go from missiles and markets and stuff. Let's bring it back to something safer, you know. Why Greek or Greek Easter is on a different day? You guys are late for everything. We are late Nothing personal people that are nothing. No, it. No, no, no, no And if you're watching just drop a comment in here and say hello. We'd to talk to you It's a Greek Easter. Alright, so first of all, I'm gonna tell everybody this we're the og Christians Okay, Jesus and his disciples they passed away and then became the Orthodox Church and then in 1068 od The guy in Rome, I'm sorry, the bishop of Rome says, I don't represent St. Peter, I represent Jesus on earth. Okay. Our church had a problem with that. Right. Because every major city had a bishop, Bishop of Constantinople and Antioch and all this other stuff. So you sound like you had a Sunday school. I had some church history in college, you know, and I love this stuff because I told somebody the other day that ⁓ Christianity is the best marketing. program ever on this planet right ahead of Coca-Cola. Okay. Most recognizable because how did Christianity get through the Roman conquered world? They copied the pagan festivals. That's right. In the winter, the, you know, in the fall, ⁓ you know, so the birth of Christ and the Easter and the, ⁓ you know, the resurrection and then, ⁓ the, did I say the birth? I met the death and resurrection and then the birth and, you know, around Christmas time. They basically just bolted on Christianity and Christian principles to already standing festivals and it was kind of an easy way to be accepted. Now we got them to accept it because we want people to be saved. Like the Easter bunny. Yeah. And the Christmas tree. Let's get back to why the Greeks relate to everything. It's not okay. So just to dis Although it is a plus I was gonna say yeah, then what a bonus sometimes the peeps are little little tough to choose You got a really that's a timely thing. Okay, but the difference really comes It's a calendar thing The Western churches use the Gregorian calendar and Orthodox churches use the German in base kind of calendar Which I tell people is the Jewish calendar. Okay, basically the Orthodox church just Kind of use the Jewish calendar that was being used at that time and just kind of stuck with it So, you know, look, we're not late. We're just Orthodox. Okay, you know Any same things? mean there's you interchange them. I have a Greek friend. I'll help me. Yeah, he'll be late. Yeah, I Tell people is a Greek time or CPT. What are we going after today? know, so we all have every every ethnicity has their thing and If Greeks are just a little late, it's okay. It's okay. Yeah, so What else? What's a, what, was your Easter? Did you, cause you did have the American Easter yesterday. did have the American Easter. you enjoy it? friends and family? Went to a friend's house. Yep. Okay. Good. I'm going to stop there. Okay. I don't want to throw anybody into the bus. You don't have to. It's Easter. You're supposed to be happy. I'm happy. He has risen. Come on. I'm happy. I ate a lot of, ⁓ what's called sweet potato casserole. Sweet potato casserole. like that. Yeah. Well, we're going to be, ⁓ I don't know. We might do steak or maybe a lamb. You I wanted lamb. That's what I want. Lamb is good for Easter. So Sunday, where do I need to be? I'll let you know. Okay. My mom and dad. ⁓ no, April 12th. ⁓ I have somewhere to be. It's Diane Wheatley's birthday party. you know what? I just responded to that and said, I can't make it. Yeah. So it's one of the few times my religion works out for me. Wow, did you just say that? No, it's her birthday. Happy birthday, Diane. You should buy a ticket just to buy one. See, now you put me on the spot. Now. Yeah, now I'm going to do it anyway. can buy a ticket and donate it to me because I have to buy a second one because somebody wants to go with me. So there are a couple of things that have come up in the last week. Let's talk about this, ⁓ this state unstable genius we have on the United States Supreme court. ⁓ my God. Jackson Brown or Brown Jackson. Whatever it is. She It was a little bit of word salad, which is indicative of probably the Democrats anyway ⁓ So in that is what I get you I don't know How do I even quote everything that she did I write it down something about if you break a law in Japan then you become a person that is ⁓ I don't know it made no sense and I'm like, okay. Yes, if you break a law in Japan, then you get Then you're held liable. She was claiming it makes you Japanese because you have allegiance to their laws if you get in trouble doesn't make you a Japanese no if you First of all, if you go to Japan, you can't go there illegally because if you go there illegally you will be they have penalties and stuff There's no sneaking in. Well, it's an island. I don't you can't really sneak up on Japan Although Trump did say, you know, they do know all about being staked. was going to say, you can sneak up on an island. You can sneak up. I guess she was, justice Jackson was talking about legal, legal control, not patriotic identity. She was arguing that a person can have permanent national allegiance to one country, but still owes to imperial legal obedience to another country's laws when physically present there. But when you break the law to get in the country, do you show. But her point was you don't have to be part of a nation's permanent political community in order to be subject to their laws. So is this, making the case for ice? Yes. I mean, that's the way I think that backfired on her because you don't have to be part of the fellow that ball. You don't have to be part of a nation's permanent community in order to be subject to the nation's laws. Right. So are subject to our laws here. You're subject to our law. You go home. You get a one way ticket. That's right. Thanks, Justice Brown. Yeah. Maybe she proved our point. don't know. So of course we had lots of critics about what she said. ⁓ in normal conversation, the word allegiance sounds like loyalty, patriotism, national belonging, citizenship identity. But Jackson was trying to use it more in a technical, technical legal sense, more like subjection to lawful authority and obligation to obey the sovereign where you are standing. Well, if you're obliged, if you're obligated to. obey this sovereign where you are standing, then when you broke in, you have to go home. So there, now, if you break in, do you get to push out a baby and then become a citizen? Well, I think this is leading up to their decision on birthright citizenship. Right. Well, I think she's trying to make a narrow, I'm not trying to defend her at all because I think she's a clown, but, You know, she's she I guess what she meant to say was if you're standing on another country's soil that country can govern your contact again Making the case for ice, right? So if I go to France and push out well, actually Italy's hard to become a citizen You have to learn the language. There's they have a lot of you have to be able to like have a conversation in Italian in order to become an Italian citizen Thank you real housewives of something that I learned that from ⁓ So if I go push out a baby in Italy, does that make me Italian or my baby Italian? No, it makes it a US citizen that was born in Italy. But that has been our standard for the last 250 years. If that kid's born, it's okay. So wait a minute. So let me think about this. So somebody that was born in Italy of a US citizen cannot become president. because they were not born on sovereigns. But an illegal can come over here and birth a child with no legal, like a Chinese citizen, that child can become president. Or like a Manchurian candidate, like Obama. mean call us. I'm just saying is I mean this illegal person have that birth certificate ⁓ Anyway, so this illegal person came over push out a baby and that baby wherever it comes from can go back to its country and learn all about because It's funny. We were talking about China today The Chinese citizens actually have their they have like police here in the United States where you do something against the Chinese Chinese or the China government here in America, they will scoop you up and just like you'll disappear and end up in China. Well, that's quality control. think I like that. We should send it for the ugly Americans to go to like, well, not France. We can make fun of France all we want. Well, who decides who's ugly? ⁓ Ugly. I'm not whatever being an ugly American. I'm about that. So I guess. The last thing I'm going say about her, my opinion, her point was that Japan can control your conduct while you're in Japan. Again, making the case that if we don't want birthright citizenship, we can say no. And a larger issue, and this is going to take us to our next thing, that when the constitution uses broad language, then how do we define how things are put into practice? Because eventually we use the precedent of the courts and then the legislation should balance that, should balance the executive. Well, that's exactly what needs to happen. Congress needs to come together, stop being partisan and figure they should not be citizens. Full stop. Well, back home, here in North Carolina, back home in North Carolina, we have not a fight over education. I'm sorry, over citizenship, but over education right now. was a North Carolina Supreme Court overturned the Leandro decision that was decided on in 1997. ⁓ The biggest thing about the Leandro deal was North Carolina constitution guarantees every child the opportunity to receive a sound, basic education. that's kind of the crux of this. it didn't promise identical schools or identical spending in every county. What it said was that the state must provide minimum ingredients necessary for real educational opportunities. So think about sound, basic education. That's a big, hairy, amorphous word. So when we graduate students that can't read, that's not a sound, basic education. I'm with you. So let's suss this out. So the whole sound, basic education thing led to, here's the idea. We should have competent teachers, competent principals, adequate educational resources, and enough support so students actually have a constitutional chance to learn. So those are not measurable goals. Those are not anything very amorphous goals. Yeah, how do you quantify how what a competent teacher looks like? Right? I mean, so Leandro back then give gay parents, districts and advocates a constitutional basis to challenge education failures in court. ⁓ Before Leandro lawmakers were treating poor outcomes as a political problem. And now after the courts could say this is not just disappointing policy, this may be a constitutional violation. So it's elevating when a parent complains, it a problem with the school board or is it a constitutional violation? That elevates it a little bit. ⁓ The state can't say after Leandro's passed that, we tried. Sorry, they can't read, we tried. Did you? I mean, that's... Now the court's saying every child has a constitutional right to the opportunity for sound basic education. So you've got the right to it. Now, whether we're delivering it is a, is a whole other ball game. We're not delivering it. don't feel like we are. We're like 47th, 46th in the nation for education here in North Carolina. we are, if we were like top half, then I would like we, okay, we're delivering it. It's just our constituents are not, but we're like last almost might as well be. Well, Leandro, I mentioned before we came on air that Leandro was actually the plaintiff's name in Hope County. This happened down the street. ⁓ And that this case has been going on and retried and they tried to chip away at it like any law that we pass. ⁓ So there was remedial framework pushed back against for teacher recruitment, pre-K access, special education, broader schools. So since it was passed in 97, they've been chipping away at what it was supposed to do. But it's been going on so long that young Leandro is now an attorney practicing in North Carolina. Is he still working on this I don't know if he's still working on this for him. He's advocating for this case. So he was a young person actually wanting an education? Well, his parents used him as a, you know, maybe stage parents or whatever. But the point is, this is a local issue. This is not some far flung thing. This is in our backyard right here at Rayford. And I, I do want to bring on, so, There are a of guests that I want to bring on. want to speak to our local school board and find out how this is going to affect them where the rubber meets the road. But there is a teacher union representative I want to bring on to talk about it. I don't like teachers. Because, well, it's a conservative teacher alliance at least. You know who the teacher? Who? The great and wonderful SM. Mm-hmm. We can bring her on. I didn't say all that. I didn't say all that. So what I want to hear from are people that understand Leandro, understand the before and afters so that we can talk to our audience about it. Mm-hmm. Because I'm not a teacher. I don't understand what this looked like 25 years ago. It's my understanding she's in a very liberal school too. Well, and we had Leonard Bryant from Frederick Douglass Foundation. They had actually initiated a lawsuit here in Fayetteville. that had something to do with somebody not having equal access to IEPs and stuff like that. So Leandro is, in my opinion, it was unfair to the schools to begin with. Why? When you're making every school district have like a Swiss army knife, like they have to have every tool. in their toolbox, whether there's one student or a thousand students that need that service. So what happens if you live in a neighborhood, in a county that doesn't have those, but your child needs that? How can we be mandated to possibly cater to every different permutation of the way our kids are? How can we do that? mean, seriously, how can we fund it? How can we plan? ⁓ Say there's ⁓ I don't know, a deaf and mute or a deaf and blind kid, right? And I'm sure there are. How do we, how many of those kids are there? And do we need to have a program for deaf and blind kids at every school? I wouldn't say at every school. I would say every county or at least within a contiguous county. Okay. And that's what I think Leandra was like, no, you got to have it available everywhere. Well, you can't, there's no way. There you go. I'm the blind mute teacher. I got nothing to do because there's no blind mutes in my class. But I would say if it is in each county, one school, then you would have to be able to transport that child to that school and not make it a burden on the parents. Again, every child deserves an education and I wish we could better define sound basic education. But you know, when the courts are throwing this stuff out, now, and they will know that it was a liberal-led court when Leandra became a thing and it's now a conservative-led court that has overturned it. So there is that. ⁓ But we're going to have some guests on to discuss that further. It's, it's, I'm totally new to this. This is the first time hearing of it. It's not the most exciting of topics, but if you're worried about trying to get us from a tier one community, which is the lowest and the poorest to, know, a different tier so that we can attract better jobs and better opportunities here, we need to be focused on the children. And you even said it on another show was listening to. says, you children are our future. You almost broke into song. Did I really almost I couldn't carry a tune in a bucket. It was half full. So I don't think I did So I am so I want to come to something that's more near and dear to my heart. I do have one. Okay Let me see if a heart. Yeah, I do. I I do. Yeah, so now I know that yeah sometimes anyway, so I'm gonna share this because I just this is too What are we sharing too good not to share? is not in the notes. No, it's not I'm going off script. script. Okay. All right. Do you see? So I want to talk about Artemis 2 launching on April Fool's, April 1st. I'll get into it in a minute, but I just want to, I want you to see this kid's response. Okay, I can't now that we've been in the first place wait a minute hold stop see that we're gonna disagree on that at all there Okay, well, I would like to know wait a minute. I go ahead. ahead just for Explain this me you I've been to a launch I've been to I was in Daytona when they were getting ready to do so the disruption in air and space and time when a Rocket takes off dirt everywhere, smoke goes everywhere, fire everywhere. Have you seen the video of the... First of all, who videotaped it as it takes off from the moon? Who's up there videotaping as it stays center frame? Just out of curiosity. And where's the smoke, the fire, and any kind of propulsion whatsoever as it just picks up off the moon and flies away? mean in orbit? No, no, no, no. On the moon landing. Right, right, right. It's sitting on the moon. Because there's no air. There's no, there's no, there was no fire. No, nothing happens. Right. it. There is a scene of a Saturn five rocket, the staging. I think it was off of Apollo six or seven. was a test flight. They, well, I'm a two time space camp attendee. So, know, ⁓ but there was film. from inside the stage that showed the other stage separating and igniting and you see the flame outside of the cone for a moment until it develops enough thrust and then the flame is contained inside of the where's the thrust from landing on the moon? Where's the dust going away? It needs some kind of propulsion to get off this. Where is it? It doesn't carry like it does in an atmosphere like we have. See here, you've got air molecules around everything so when you disrupt one it has a ripple effect, but in space It goes against the force it was applied to so so who's the guy that was there on the moon? Going ready go take off you mean taking off so that was taken from a lunar rover that they had driven around and they kept it and there was a guy well How did it how did the lunar rover get there cuz that that piece because it was in the base? There was empty space in the base of the lunar module. my god. You are about she driven a lunar lunar rover. Okay, they have you like totally. Well, I did it. even built where I even saw Delta to take off. I'm all over it. But I just want to mention that this young man has definitely not been alive long enough to have seen the shuttles or anything else or know anything about the space race and his enthusiasm. I think the director of NASA said we're sending him a welcome bag of guys. But there's another podcast that I listened to, the Ruthless podcast. ⁓ They were talking about, they went to get a drink in DC the day of the launch and that the bar is a pretty, pretty eclectic mix of Capitol Hill functionaries and ⁓ Democrats, Republicans, everybody, but that they felt that there was a ⁓ palpable mood of patriotism. Really fine when the rocket ignited and it took off everybody was cheering like it was a Super Bowl And you know America's back We should be doing great things. We should be doing these things that you know, it's not AFK to be eloquent and say, know We go to the moon because not because they're easy, but because they're hard, right, you know ⁓ Donald Trump couldn't pull that off. Right? Okay ⁓ he's not the most he'll still be not he's not going to have the speeches that are going to be probably replayed right uh... might there's a bit of a couple there's been a couple of their actions were pretty good only for the explicit waiting laden parts of it you know i should have paid you uh... you know that was pretty funny although i was hoping that girl's name is pegi Anyway Anyway, so artemis 2 launched on april 1st in a return on april 11th that one other bringing you back home Don't you think it's april 1st? Hmm april fools going to the moon. Now don't you're not one of those conspiracy theorists people See I saw some on facebook and it just makes me want to jiggle them. Like what is wrong with you? Like we've been to the moon. We've been I don't believe you. Okay, fine I believe it. They're be back on the 11th Local flavor here. Christina Koch is an astronaut first woman to orbit the moon. Okay She was born in Michigan, but she was raised in Jacksonville. She was a I guess marine brat Okay, she attended North Carolina School of Math and Science nice and of course NC State and then she has multiple masters and everything is pretty smart lady, but I just had to mention that we have a local North Carolinian on And well we had mr. Astronaut Borman was from here. I think I went to school with his grandkids. Really? Yeah, so I don't know anything about other than we I know that we did not land on the moon Lord I'm not I'm not gonna argue with you and I'm not because I I know we did so Facebook that does not believe it, but I'm just like I'm look we're here. We're there. We'll just talk something else. How do you lose? I lost I don't know to get there again What are you talking about lose what? They can, they, NASA lost all of the footage. They lost all of the information on how they got there. Really? Well, because everything was on tape. They got erased. Yeah. How convenient. No, they re they were used. That's, you know, expensive. Even our government was like, all right, let's reuse that. Yeah. The one moon landing, the one thing that we did. Yeah. Let's let's take over that. That's it. I mean, I don't know. I don't know what the motivation is to not archive things, but ⁓ Yeah, anyway, I can't with you today. it's okay. You're not going to convince me. I've looked at too much footage. Stop about one website. Seriously, whatever conspiracy website you're looking at. There's so many. When you start going down the rabbit hole, you just can't come back. That's gonna do it for us this after this evening. I should say I think we're gonna be on Tuesday I think I do have a guest Tuesday. I'm Wednesday. Okay. What the hell's wrong? Tuesday Tuesday Tuesday night. Yep. And so listen everybody. Thank you for joining us on our live broadcast. Hello Bambi you're really late to the party but She says we walked on the moon and she stayed up late. So there, take that Laura. love Bambi. 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